When are you going fully electric?

The Mustang coupes (the real Mustangs) are bespoke.
The problem is that you can extend this to loads of brands a Cayenne isn't a real Porsche, a Urus isn't a real Lamborghini, a Bentayga isn't a real Bentley....

Then take a look at what people are actually buying from each of those brands. You can't blame Ford for using the Mustang brand to shift units instead of creating a niche proposition for the odd middle aged guy with plenty of cash and a desire to live out his Steve McQueen fantasies.
 
So my mum is currently away in Devon, and where she's staying there isn't a charger at the property - pretty normal.


She's trying to find somewhere to charge, though, and she can't. At least, not somewhere that her Audi sub will offer cheaper pricing.


The My Audi app is down for her, and won't load the map. She's struggling with the car's own sat nav to find an audi specific charger - it's showing her all chargers, and asking which charger the car has. Would have thought it should know this.



Any recommendations? The online Audi map doesn't work either for me to look for her.
 
If its a pressing requirement fire up Zapmaps and find *any* CCS charger nearby.

Maybe filter on Zapmaps to show just the networks that come under the "Audi" umbrella? I don't know which ones would qualify in this scenario as not something I have ever looked at but you can filter by the different networks / charger speed etc within the app itself. .
 
Just read that MG are going to launch a new estate to replace the MG5. Seemingly it will be based off the MG4 motors and architecture, due to launch later this year.
If true that might be right up my street, and would offer better performance/range/charger future-proofing than the Leaf e+ I had otherwise shortlisted.

 
LPG failed because the government of the day decided to rack up the tax on it IIRC. It was doing quite well up to that point I thought but the benefit of cheaper driving was removed.

Although they whacked tax on it big time, it was (and still is) still vastly cheaper than petrol/diesel. I ran a big Jeep with LPG. Current LPG price at the pump is around half diesel/petrol price. Yes you lost some economy, around 10%, so your actual fuel cost saving is only around 40%. But with a £2500-£3000 install cost it was a bargain and you soon got your install cost back.

Gave the car a massive range too as you had the original petrol tank plus an LPG tank.

it lost traction as people wanted off the shelf cars and dont fancy conversions plus you lose either boot space or the spare wheel. Obviously warranty is void doing a conversion so its only older cars which got this done. I never understood why they werent more popular. Instead of getting 22mpg out of my monster petrol jeep, i was getting 18-19mpg but paying half price for the fuel so effectively getting 36-38 mpg for a big v8 SUV.

Made it affordable to run.

people didnt like youtube videos showing tanks blowing up either............

watch the white car in the middle land from 30s onwards. And yet some people say Hydrogen is the future,......

 
So my mum is currently away in Devon, and where she's staying there isn't a charger at the property - pretty normal.


She's trying to find somewhere to charge, though, and she can't. At least, not somewhere that her Audi sub will offer cheaper pricing.


The My Audi app is down for her, and won't load the map. She's struggling with the car's own sat nav to find an audi specific charger - it's showing her all chargers, and asking which charger the car has. Would have thought it should know this.



Any recommendations? The online Audi map doesn't work either for me to look for her.
Any more specific than Devon
 
So my mum is currently away in Devon, and where she's staying there isn't a charger at the property - pretty normal.


She's trying to find somewhere to charge, though, and she can't. At least, not somewhere that her Audi sub will offer cheaper pricing.


The My Audi app is down for her, and won't load the map. She's struggling with the car's own sat nav to find an audi specific charger - it's showing her all chargers, and asking which charger the car has. Would have thought it should know this.



Any recommendations? The online Audi map doesn't work either for me to look for her.
This is why charging should be as standard as petrol/diesel.
 
So my mum is currently away in Devon, and where she's staying there isn't a charger at the property - pretty normal.


She's trying to find somewhere to charge, though, and she can't. At least, not somewhere that her Audi sub will offer cheaper pricing.


The My Audi app is down for her, and won't load the map. She's struggling with the car's own sat nav to find an audi specific charger - it's showing her all chargers, and asking which charger the car has. Would have thought it should know this.



Any recommendations? The online Audi map doesn't work either for me to look for her.

Just use ZapMap and filter by DC or CCS charging.
If you're going to be picky about chargers to save 10-20p kWh then it will make life harder !
 
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Any recommendations? The online Audi map doesn't work either for me to look for her.
As above, use ZapMap or charge finder.

There is likely a charger of some kind close by.

This is why charging should be as standard as petrol/diesel.

Rapid chargers will be from November as the 12 month grace period will have ended, they all have to take contactless from November. The person above is just being picky about their specific discounted charge card.

It’s not really any different to when Tesla owners complain that the super charger is full and they have to queue while ignoring the bank of empty Apple Green units next to them.
 
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She ended up somewhere using a guest rate at 80 odd pence per KWh :(


Almost double the price of her Audi charging sub price.


Genuinely is consumer hell trying to charge in public at times. Driving round for 20 minutes checking different chargers, finding they’re full, don’t have the right plug or just not working.
 
So my mum is currently away in Devon, and where she's staying there isn't a charger at the property - pretty normal.


She's trying to find somewhere to charge, though, and she can't. At least, not somewhere that her Audi sub will offer cheaper pricing.


The My Audi app is down for her, and won't load the map. She's struggling with the car's own sat nav to find an audi specific charger - it's showing her all chargers, and asking which charger the car has. Would have thought it should know this.



Any recommendations? The online Audi map doesn't work either for me to look for her.

She ended up somewhere using a guest rate at 80 odd pence per KWh :(


Almost double the price of her Audi charging sub price.


Genuinely is consumer hell trying to charge in public at times. Driving round for 20 minutes checking different chargers, finding they’re full, don’t have the right plug or just not working.

Where abouts was/is she? Devon is a big county!
 
Whenever they release a Renaultsport version of the new Renault 5 :cool:

will this do?
 
Although they whacked tax on it big time, it was (and still is) still vastly cheaper than petrol/diesel. I ran a big Jeep with LPG. Current LPG price at the pump is around half diesel/petrol price. Yes you lost some economy, around 10%, so your actual fuel cost saving is only around 40%. But with a £2500-£3000 install cost it was a bargain and you soon got your install cost back.

Gave the car a massive range too as you had the original petrol tank plus an LPG tank.

it lost traction as people wanted off the shelf cars and dont fancy conversions plus you lose either boot space or the spare wheel. Obviously warranty is void doing a conversion so its only older cars which got this done. I never understood why they werent more popular. Instead of getting 22mpg out of my monster petrol jeep, i was getting 18-19mpg but paying half price for the fuel so effectively getting 36-38 mpg for a big v8 SUV.

Made it affordable to run.

people didnt like youtube videos showing tanks blowing up either............

watch the white car in the middle land from 30s onwards. And yet some people say Hydrogen is the future,......

Thats an Ev for sure ;)

I would not want an old hydrogen car personally.
Its a really dumb thing to want IMO.
Its either basically just a fuel cell for an EV, so its just a more expensive way of going electric, or its a direct combustion that will have horrible range, or take up most of the useable space as well as being expensive.
 
Another R5 vid:
She ended up somewhere using a guest rate at 80 odd pence per KWh :(


Almost double the price of her Audi charging sub price.


Genuinely is consumer hell trying to charge in public at times. Driving round for 20 minutes checking different chargers, finding they’re full, don’t have the right plug or just not working.

Can't help but think the Audi service/app is largely to blame here, even if it does highlight how charging availability can vary so vastly from one area to the next.
 
Just read that MG are going to launch a new estate to replace the MG5. Seemingly it will be based off the MG4 motors and architecture, due to launch later this year.
If true that might be right up my street, and would offer better performance/range/charger future-proofing than the Leaf e+ I had otherwise shortlisted.

Poor journalism, got the 0-60 time wrong for the standard range that they quoted the range for.
Also quoted the standard range of 214 miles to make it look poor, rather than quote the long range version at 250 miles which is closer to the state 0-60.
The charge speed quoted at 50kwh is also wrong, more like 89kwh.

Can't wait for the mg4 estate though.
 
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