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Fully electric!
(Well, apart from what's in the garage...)
(Well, apart from what's in the garage...)
My dad is in a similar situation, they just got rid of the 15 year old golf I originally bought in 2011 and handed down, and got a Tesla with a zappi home charger, they couldn't be more chuffed tbh the golf was really showing its age. I feel much more comfortable with them on the road with all the driver assist bits they come with.i would love to have a go in that volvo.
my parents next car will likely be their last and they want something not to big for tootling about town, but big enough to do the 200 mile drive to see me.
i want them to get something with as many driver aids as possible for when my dad is on the motorway (he is 78, and whilst he wont admit it i think the long journey is becoming a challenge)....... when they do upgrade i am thinking if the driver assists are decent in them that volvo or a cupra born/ID3 could be a good fit for them.
First impressions are that the driver aids are quite unintrusive, also easy to turn off. The Volvo's cabin is a lot nicer than the ID.3.i want them to get something with as many driver aids as possible for when my dad is on the motorway (he is 78, and whilst he wont admit it i think the long journey is becoming a challenge)....... when they do upgrade i am thinking if the driver assists are decent in them that volvo or a cupra born/ID3 could be a good fit for them.
Im not a fan of EV's and would have liked if Hydro fueled cars where more popularit is frustrating....... its not unique to here however. it has gotten to the point that i just dont talk about cars at work any more because every little issue i have - which can be related or totally unrelated to it being an EV.... i get the smug shake of the head with .... EVs are just not good enough!.
(I actually got a warning from my manager when i actually said FFS! in the office -it was a knee jerk reaction and was louder than i meant to - when someone started going off on one about EVs causing fires and using that airport car park fire as a prime example - you know, the one started by a diesel!.. I went so far as to find the video of the car on fire and even bought it up on the tax website and the response i got was.......... well it *could* have been an EV!. )
hence........ i keep out of work car chat now
Agreed..Im not a fan of EV's and would have liked if Hydro fueled cars where more popular
well you are entitled to that view..... I don't share it mind you but to each their own.Im not a fan of EV's and would have liked if Hydro fueled cars where more popular
Care to explain why?Im not a fan of EV's and would have liked if Hydro fueled cars where more popular
With hydro, we can convert all of the pumps to take hydro fuel so infrastructure wise it is a easier way to do it rather then converted all to electric and to also convert most of the roads to have electricity sockets to charge for people with no driveway as well.Care to explain why?
Could that be from a eco damaging source that is similar to where we get electricity?Along with where you get your hydrogen from (ironically the most abundant element in the universe...)
Its not perfect but with the right brains it could be improved.There are also problems with the general usability of hydrogen pumps which people don't really talk about. They are fast on paper but only when measured by filling one car, they can't handle the same throughput of cars that a petrol and diesel pumps can because of how they work.
If the hydrogen is delivered in liquid form it has to be turned back into a gas which limits throughput. It then has to be compressed and cooled before it can be loaded into your car. The hydrogen has to go in very cold so it doesn't damage the tanks as they are pressurised. The hydrogen cools the nozzles to below freezing and as soon as you disconnect from the car, all the moisture in the air forms ice on it and they can freeze solid. It's a problem in the dry California sun, it gets worse over here with our damp humid climate and its even worse in colder countries like Norway. After filling a couple of cars, you may have to wait for the nozzles to defrost so you can use them again.
Remember when one of the Toyota execs were claiming that women couldn't use EV chargers because the cables were too heavy? Most blokes would have problems with a partially frozen hydrogen nozzle...
With hydro, we can convert all of the pumps to take hydro fuel so infrastructure wise it is a easier way to do it rather then converted all to electric and to also convert most of the roads to have electricity sockets to charge for people with no driveway as well.
Also, if we all used electric cars then can our national grid support the demand for them without power cuts etc?
Hydro I assume will also be slightly easier to convert a petrol car to do it apparently but I think it's very difficult to convert a petrol car to fully electric.
Also, hydro cars will be lighter then ev cars so that's a added bonus.
What do you think?
Are you against hydro?
Could that be from a eco damaging source that is similar to where we get electricity?
We will need more eco damaging pylons https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68601354
Plus there also is deep-sea mining https://www.dw.com/en/underwater-mining-to-extract-lithium-cobalt-threatens-biodiversity/a-65219511
Of course you can. But the way you imply is that you assume we can just pour hydro into an existing petrol tank...You can just convert petrol pumps and storage tanks to support liquid hydrogen? Really?
Not everyone will be charging their car at the same time.
Why are we talking about converting cars? Who is doing this?
Weight isn't really an issue anyone cares about at this stage as it's pretty much meaningless.
Hydrogen fuel cells as a concept are great and I like them - I was driven round in a Toyota hydrogen taxi in Paris. In practice, the generation, storage, transfer and use of liquid hydrogen by the general public makes it a non-starter.
With hydro, we can convert all of the pumps to take hydro fuel so infrastructure wise it is a easier way to do it rather then converted all to electric and to also convert most of the roads to have electricity sockets to charge for people with no driveway as well.
Also, if we all used electric cars then can our national grid support the demand for them without power cuts etc?
Hydro I assume will also be slightly easier to convert a petrol car to do it apparently but I think it's very difficult to convert a petrol car to fully electric.
Also, hydro cars will be lighter then ev cars so that's a added bonus.
What do you think?
Are you against hydro?
Of course you can. But the way you imply is that you assume we can just pour hydro into an existing petrol tank...
Nope u don't. Of course there needs to be some adjustments but that for the experts to work on, not u and I.
Not everyone charging there cars is true but some will and that will have an additional load on the power grid which was my point..
I did say weight was a bonus.
Ev was a good concept too and look where we are?