When are you going fully electric?

Anyone on OVO charge anytime with a Zappi charger? Can you just leave it on fast mode all the time and still get the cheaper rate or do you need to use say eco / eco+.

Thank you.
 
Been watching a couple of review vids of the new Kia EV3. At this point I think I'd quite like one, and would get one if I could give my Model Y back without financial penalty (which I can't :p)

Wow, your taste is really bad ;)
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lol.... whilst i can see the resemblance, there is a reason why the model Y was the best selling car in the world at 1 point, despite looking pretty bland................ and my money is on the EV3 doing similar...... the range it offers for the price i dont think any other car comes close. long range MG4 maybe (less range but is a little cheaper), but that is less practical and my understanding is (i havent been in an EV3) it uses higher quality finishings as well than the MG.
 
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There's a bunch of cheaper cars coming to the market in the next year or so but Kia and Hyundai are smashing it in general. The number of Tucsons and Sportages I see around here is insane. Every other car seems to be a Tucson particularly lol
 
There's a bunch of cheaper cars coming to the market in the next year or so but Kia and Hyundai are smashing it in general. The number of Tucsons and Sportages I see around here is insane. Every other car seems to be a Tucson particularly lol
i do wonder where the E-niro will sit in the market when the EV3 comes out.... from my perspective the EV3 looks better than the E-Niro in the areas which matter and it is cheaper as well.
 
Every 10 miles or so?

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Between Aberystwyth and Cardigan (which is the default route for my sat nav if we were travelling to Cardigan) is 40 miles. That rapid at Cardigan is a single point (wtf?!). If you can't charge at your destination, then that's 80 miles you need to be able to cover without a charge (or make a special trip just to charge).

Of the others in the screenshot, Machynlleth, Llanybydder and Fishguard have 2 stalls, all the others are a single charger.

Is that really enough in a relatively popular tourist destination? Yes, South Wales is fine, but Mid/North-West is still lacking IMO (although to be fair there are a good number of destination chargers popping up in various beach/coastal car parks).


Also, your map doesn't show destination chargers.
I frequently ride MTB (electric :) ) at Coed Y Brenin (Just above Dolgellau) and they have 2x FREE destination chargers in the car park. These are always available - the 'available 3 weeks ago' one below is when I last used it. There are loads more of these scattered around places you are likely to stop.

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A photo for evidence :p

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i do wonder where the E-niro will sit in the market when the EV3 comes out.... from my perspective the EV3 looks better than the E-Niro in the areas which matter and it is cheaper as well.
There might not be a another Niro EV after this one I guess? It is a bit crowded if you consider there's going to be a Soul EV, Niro EV, EV3 and EV6...
 
Also, your map doesn't show destination chargers.
I frequently ride MTB at Coed Y Brenin (Just above Dolgellau) and they have 2x FREE destination chargers in the car park. There are loads more of these scattered around places you are likely to stop.

This is where an EV on family holiday road trips can shine. EV destinations chargers might only be 7kWh or 11 kWh but they will add 20 to 45 miles per hour depending on your EV. Even my low efficiency I-Pace was adding 30 miles per hour and we stayed a few hours at these tourist destinations. Getting there might need a rapid charge, but once you are there you have so many AC options in various destinations that keep you topped up day to day.

Something with 22kWh charging would be in its element doing this at many AC chargers.
 
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great if you can find free A/C chargers , but those available, in numbers, near me, are still only giving parity with petrol cost - like geniepoint Premier Inn N Cambridge 50p odd -
so the rest of your ev running costs with home charging/bik etc. need to offset that.

Is an EV3 much cheaper than a rwd ID4;
 
great if you can find free A/C chargers , but those available, in numbers, near me, are still only giving parity with petrol cost - like geniepoint Premier Inn N Cambridge 50p odd -
so the rest of your ev running costs with home charging/bik etc. need to offset that.

Why do you care - you can charge at home which will cover 90+% of your charging needs. If the other 5-10% costs as much as diesel it’s basically irrelevant in terms of the cost of owning the car. That weeks depreciation probably cost you more, even on a used BEV.
 
great if you can find free A/C chargers , but those available, in numbers, near me, are still only giving parity with petrol cost - like geniepoint Premier Inn N Cambridge 50p odd -
so the rest of your ev running costs with home charging/bik etc. need to offset that.


You know fine well the cheap rate electricity more than offsets any cost at pay to use public chargers. You have been frequenting this thread for years now. That’s why most of us who own EVs roll our eyes out loud at those clowns who post videos lamenting how much they had to pay to drive across country once or twice a year.
 
2023 MG4 Trophy, hopefully pick it up Thursday.
This is the first really expensive car we've ever bought and hopefully with service plans etc it will last us a long time.
I've just had a nice NHS Pension Lump Sum so thought we'd put it to good use.
Since we don't normally do more than 50 miles a week we're going to stick to the Granny charger for now.

 
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Good luck with it, the Trophy trim MG4 might be my next pick. Did you go for the smaller battery size given your low mileage?
 
1800kg towing capacity too which will cover all but the biggest loads.


The point was you can buy lower end ICE cars with decent towing capacity, you don’t need to get into premium SUVs to tow 2000kg, a Ford Kuga will happily do it.

X5 and XC90 are pretty high end and I’d suggest cars like the Tiguan and Kuga are far more representative. Towing capacity on EVs and hybrids is generally a lot lower than their ICE equivalents. For example a VW Tiguan can tow 2000kg, a ID.4 can tow 1200kg. A Kuga can tow 2000kg, Mach-e 1500kg.




Caravans are not the only things people tow but I don’t disagree with your point in principle however, come 2030 the non-hybrid or electric options will start becoming very limited, particularly if you want to drive a relatively new car.

Can you see VW re-engineering the ID.4 before 2030 to increase its towing capacity? It’s not impossible but I don’t see it happening.


I doubt you’ll be able to even buy a new diesel car in a few years that isn’t a large, very premium SUV.

If the argument is you won't be able to buy a ICE in 2030, its not going to happen. UK will not have enough EVs to replace new ICE cars by then. Even if it did happen you'd have 25+ million used cars to buy from.
Certainly no reason to buy a vehicle unsuitable for towing, because there will be other options. I wouldn't call a new Tiguan an inexpensive car either. In the same ball park of a EV6. Not that personally I'd buy an EV for towing.
 
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Good luck with it, the Trophy trim MG4 might be my next pick. Did you go for the smaller battery size given your low mileage?

We went for the larger battery just in case we might do the odd further journey.
We can charge it to full and it should last 5 weeks :)
This is the very first car I've ever been excited about or shown an interest in for 66 years.
 
We went for the larger battery just in case we might do the odd further journey.
We can charge it to full and it should last 5 weeks :)
This is the very first car I've ever been excited about or shown an interest in for 66 years.

If you're wanting the car (battery) to last, don't charge to full and then leave it sat there :p best to keep <80% (or even lower if you can, which it sounds like) unless you're going to start a big drive the next day etc.
 
If you're wanting the car (battery) to last, don't charge to full and then leave it sat there :p best to keep <80% (or even lower if you can, which it sounds like) unless you're going to start a big drive the next day etc.

When I said FULL I meant 80%, there's a nice screen for it with a sliding scale.
I've been riding eBikes for 14 years and I charge them to 90%.
 
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