My longest trip is 15miles one way which is 30 to 45mins depending on time of day. My shorter trips are are 15 to 20mins away city style driving so technically not that many miles.
as some would say.
There are few cars of that type and fuel tank size that are quite as inefficient as the E60 M5 though. It's absolutely notorious for being one of the most thirsty cars with the most frustrating range around even with its fairly large fuel tank.
I use it for effect - my real point is that its unlikely you're doing a tank every 10 days on short trips unless your idea of short is somewhat stretching the argument
Lots of valid points on both sides of the EV case I think. In fact I'd say it's proof that currently EV is not the optimal solution for everyone, there's not yet a one size fits all. Even hybrids, notably plug-ins have a use case at the moment that they're well suited for.
With the big boys investing more now I reckon we'll see some big leaps forward over the coming years. Solid state batteries for example look like a game changer. I watched a Toyota video yesterday on their sold state battery and seems pretty impressive, albeit a good few years away yet I think before we still them in mass production. All the current EV's will seem like a chore to charge too (away from home) if in 5 years battery technology has advanced much further to the point where a 15 minute charge can give the huge range being predicted. It still feels like very early days in EV technology, like a beta
still cold though no?In the past that has been annoying, so now I always park indoors
Probably had that less than 5 times in all my years of driving, well, to the point where the locks were frozen or couldn't get in but I've never been much of an early starter (for the cold mornings). Modern cars warm up quite quickly A nice feature but far down my list of priorities. Unless the car was on a charger I'd not want to burn down the battery doing stuff while I'm not in the carHas anyone ever suffered the perils of waking up and having a car that’s totally frozen over in winter?
An ev produces instant heat and can defrost while you have breakfast.
It’s the same in reverse in summer, you will never come back to a hot car. Heck you can leave your drinks inside the car with the ac running
. To me that's a bit of a waste. I don't think our summers/winters are hot/cold enough either for it to be a really desirable feature. Living in Death Vallley, for sure .
Probably had that less than 5 times in all my years of driving, well, to the point where the locks were frozen or couldn't get in but I've never been much of an early starter (for the cold mornings). Modern cars warm up quite quickly A nice feature but far down my list of priorities. Unless the car was on a charger I'd not want to burn down the battery doing stuff while I'm not in the car
Good gadget however but not something I'd be excited about having in the future even when I do go EV.
During winter my MX-5 when I've used it warms up very quickly with such a small cabin anyway
Using a bowl of hot water, defroster etc is a pain as you have to stand in the cold unnecessarily. with the Tesla you go out of your house into a toasty car (you can turn the heated seats on using your mobile phone too)
Not down here in the English Riveria
. When I read your comment I did think you meant a completely frozen car, ie, not being able to get in the car for example due to frozen locks or frozen frameless side windows that dont move enough to open the door. For sure I sometimes get in and it's a little frosty but it's very rare that I either can't get in the car or the car is completely solid with ice that doesn't defrost soon after starting the engine.. An entire road trip just to cool a car before getting in to me would be a waste unless the temperature really was extreme, although having said that I would probably use it once in the car until it cooled down so would use a similar amount. In the summer maybe a few days a year I get in a car and it feels unbearable. My current car which recommends using aircon only when needed I do just that, opening the windows if only doing alocal low speed drive.
Not down here in the English Riveria
I do think it's a nice feature but it's one I would rarely use. 1-2 percent I find a lot to be honest. 2% on a Tesla could be the equivelant of 6.5 miles which could be an entire local trip
If in future there are battery options I'd rather sacrifice stuff like this for a better battery/range.
Fair enough. Maybe I'm just used to it. I hate the cold too but can cope with a few mins for a car to warm up at least to the point where I no longer thing "it's freezing"
.. I'm a bit minimalist too when it comes to cars although started appreciating heated seats once I tried them so who knows.....but I usually forget about those until half way through winter when I realise the car has them
Wearing a jacket and gloves indoors makes no sense.If only someone invented some kind of thicker top and hand socks
They’re illlegal to use unless you’re with the car. And I’ve never had a car with a remote start fitted either. Any ideas where I can buy one?
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