When are you going fully electric?

VincentHanna said:
Did my first proper long journey in the Polestar 2 today, 270 miles.

Didnt actually feel massively different to an ICE journey, even with the stops. Left with 100% battery, and found a miller & carter with a BP pulse charger and charged for 41 minutes from 50-90% whilst eating a nice steak and then the holiday home we are staying at has a 7kw charger anyway.
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So what was the overall efficeincy for the journey like? Do you know the avg speed too? Seems you couldn't have been to far off being able to do it without charging at all, not that anyone wants to drive 270 miles none stop unless they are getting paid.
 
Journey said:
So what was the overall efficeincy for the journey like? Do you know the avg speed too? Seems you couldn't have been to far off being able to do it without charging at all, not that anyone wants to drive 270 miles none stop unless they are getting paid.
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You'd be quite far off doing it on one charge I would say. Best I've got is about 220 miles.
 
We had our 9 month old puppy with us, so the aim was to stop every 90 minutes ish anyway.

We drove for 80 miles in 90 minutes and stopped for lunch. I couldn't charge as soon as we got there as somebody else was using the charger and I actually had 60% left (not 50% as previously stated), on arrival. When we left I believe it was 90% ish.

Then we drove another 82 miles in 90 minutes and stopped at an Instavolt charger at a McDonalds. I can't remember what battery percentage I arrived with but I charged "58 miles" in 20 minutes and we had a little toilet break, walked the dog for 5 mins and got a drink. When we left I had 70% charge.

Then we drove 90 miles more which took nearer 2 hours, and arrived here with 27% battery.

25% of the journey was in rain which can affect range as well.

Total distance = 252 miles
Total charging cost = £5.88
 
VincentHanna said:
We had our 9 month old puppy with us, so the aim was to stop every 90 minutes ish anyway.

We drove for 80 miles in 90 minutes and stopped for lunch. I couldn't charge as soon as we got there as somebody else was using the charger and I actually had 60% left (not 50% as previously stated), on arrival. When we left I believe it was 90% ish.

Then we drove another 82 miles in 90 minutes and stopped at an Instavolt charger at a McDonalds. I can't remember what battery percentage I arrived with but I charged "58 miles" in 20 minutes and we had a little toilet break, walked the dog for 5 mins and got a drink. When we left I had 70% charge.

Then we drove 90 miles more which took nearer 2 hours, and arrived here with 27% battery.

25% of the journey was in rain which can affect range as well.

Total distance = 252 miles
Total charging cost = £5.88
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And thats why I cant quite push the button on all electric. Last month I drove 460 miles to cornwall with two brief stops for toilet/coffee of 10 minutes each. Its was bad enough it took 9and half hours without adding big stopping times.

I know they are coming, looks like quite a few ev cars will be launched with 500+ mile ranges next couple of years so in 3 years time I will be ready for one. Meanwhile at least I went with a hybrid so I can get used to ev and plugging in and charging etc
 
Greebo said:
And thats why I cant quite push the button on all electric. Last month I drove 460 miles to cornwall with two brief stops for toilet/coffee of 10 minutes each. Its was bad enough it took 9and half hours without adding big stopping times.
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Two brief 10 minute stops, in 9.5 hours? Are you masochists? Did you just shovel food into your face, or were you eating while driving?
 
Greebo said:
And thats why I cant quite push the button on all electric. Last month I drove 460 miles to cornwall with two brief stops for toilet/coffee of 10 minutes each. Its was bad enough it took 9and half hours without adding big stopping times.

I know they are coming, looks like quite a few ev cars will be launched with 500+ mile ranges next couple of years so in 3 years time I will be ready for one. Meanwhile at least I went with a hybrid so I can get used to ev and plugging in and charging etc
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You’d probably only need to stop once in a Model 3 to do that distance.

If your stopping for 10 min breaks then you’ll probably be close to recovering enough charge in those stops on a decent charger.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
you wont want 500 mile when it comes to buying it though, day to day efficiency, also charging fully at home will be very difficult!... swings and roundabouts.

9 and half hours and you had 20mins of breaks?. No thanks
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It was going to be a long enough day as it was without it taking more than 9 and half hours. Drove back the next day as well.
 
Journey said:
Two brief 10 minute stops, in 9.5 hours? Are you masochists? Did you just shovel food into your face, or were you eating while driving?
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Grabbed the odd snack on the two 10 minutes break, had a hearty breakfast before setting off and then had dinner at the hotel that evening,.

I mean seriously, what's the obsession with lunches? I set off at 8am and got there at 5.30pm and ate dinner at 7pm. I was fine. Not much different to a normal day, I quite often dont have any lunch.
 
Greebo said:
Grabbed the odd snack on the two 10 minutes break, had a hearty breakfast before setting off and then had dinner at the hotel that evening,.

I mean seriously, what's the obsession with lunches? I set off at 8am and got there at 5.30pm and ate dinner at 7pm. I was fine. Not much different to a normal day, I quite often dont have any lunch.
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I was referencing the ability to actually stop for a proper amount of time, there can not be that many folk who would only stop for 20 mins in total, in 9.5 hours in a car. Food is a big deal for me when driving long distances, can't concentrate when hangry driving. :)

Also as the sk8erboi said, Tesla M3 LR would have easily managed that with maybe an extra 10 mins total stopping time, especially as your average speed was ~48mph, two 15 min stops.
 
Journey said:
I was referencing the ability to actually stop for a proper amount of time, there can not be that many folk who would only stop for 20 mins in total, in 9.5 hours in a car. Food is a big deal for me when driving long distances, can't concentrate when hangry driving. :)

Also as the sk8erboi said, Tesla M3 LR would have easily managed that with maybe an extra 10 mins total stopping time, especially as your average speed was ~48mph, two 15 min stops.
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yeah i did consider a Tesla but the finish and quality put me off. Like I said, if I had been due a car next year then chances are I would have gone full EV but for now I am dipping my toes in with a hybrid. See how I get on.
 
Greebo said:
yeah i did consider a Tesla but the finish and quality put me off. Like I said, if I had been due a car next year then chances are I would have gone full EV but for now I am dipping my toes in with a hybrid. See how I get on.
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Ah, am surprised most people after having a test drive realise that the whole poor finish quality is a thing of the past, was the demo car no good? The last couple of new M3's I've seen have been great, with no minor or major problems.

How's the MPG on the Hybrid on a 460 miles run then?
 
Jonnycoupe said:
See I'd just use an EV for that, a train. :p :cry:
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You ever tried to get a train from Barnard Castle to Gwithian?

My "public transport" journey would have been

My house to Darlington by car - Set off at 7.12am - 24 miles, 38 mins then lets say 22 minutes for parking and making sure I get to platform in time

Darlington Train at 8.12am to Taunton - 5hrs 5 minutes

30 minute stop over change trains

Taunton to Camborne - 3 hrs 1m arriving at 4.48pm

Camborne to Gwithian - 11 minutes, 5.1 miles by Taxi.

There were 4 of us and the total cost of the return train tickets is £1,050.00 plus £10 for the parking and the taxi fare.

Vs 20 gallons of diesel or around £100 plus having to physically drive.

Thats the biggest problem with trains in this country, its the cost. My partner has sometimes flown to Cornwall because itshas been cheaper than the train.
 
Journey said:
Ah, am surprised most people after having a test drive realise that the whole poor finish quality is a thing of the past, was the demo car no good? The last couple of new M3's I've seen have been great, with no minor or major problems.

How's the MPG on the Hybrid on a 460 miles run then?
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Didnt have the hybrid then, I only ordered it yesterday so will be months before I have it

My V6 300bhp SUV did rather well and averaged 46 mpg on the journey, best I have ever had out of it :)

And the M3 still looks cheap inside to me. Granted they may have solved their build quality issues but the other thing that put me off was the need to have a decent towing capacity. 1000kg just isnt enough. The Model x is better but too expensive. Other makes are coing out now with 2000+ towing weights which is good.

If a got an M3 I would need two cars which takes the shine of them. At least the hybrid ahs still got 3,500kg towing weight.
 
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Greebo said:
My V6 300bhp SUV did rather well and averaged 46 mpg on the journey, best I have ever had out of it :)
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Not too shabby then.

Greebo said:
And the M3 still looks cheap inside to me. Granted they may have solved their build quality issues but the other thing that put me off was the need to have a decent towing capacity. 1000kg just isnt enough.
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Ah, thought you'd had a first hand experience and test drive, not just been looking at pictures on the internet etc. I always find it hard to establish quality from pictures, but I guess you are more talking about the minimalist approach rather than a car full of buttons and knobs, as all the materials are pretty premium, even the PU leather seats are some of the best I've ever sat in. Can't comment on the towing capacity, the only thing I'd every have to tow would be a small trailer, don't really fancy a caravan, prefer the narrow boat, and that moves without the need for towing. :p
 
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