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When are you going fully electric?
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It's really not funny. The major selling point of and benefit of owning a Tesla was the dedicated no-nonsense supercharger network.Just imagine Tesla owners having to queue behind all the Leaf, Zoe and plug-in hybrids at their 'own' charging stations
- Pull up to a stall that has the cable, on the correct side of the vehicle
- Push the button on the end of the cable so that the car charging port opens
- Plug in and you're done.
- Your Tesla account knows your payment details so you don't even have to scan your card or use any app.
) or you think you'll pull an IQ400 move by skipping the app roulette an try paying contactless. I say try, because some that I've come across won't actually activate certain types of charging without the app (Electric highway near me won't let you access anything >11kw unless you have the app) so then you spend 2 mins faffing around checking that:
- the person next to you hasn't used the cable on the "wrong" side of the car (come across this at Morrisons and I had my cable going from the charger to the rear left of my car and the girl next to me had hers going to the rear right but we were parked the "wrong" way, which ended up in a spaghetti mess of crossed cables).
- you then spend 2 minutes scanning QR codes / entering ID numbers for the specific charger to get the sodding thing to power on and more often than not they'll want to take a payment of £8/£10/£30 upfront before the charge begins.
- pray that the charger even works or you will be spending 10 minutes on a phone to someone trying to get your £56 back because the charger has taken 7 payments due to you tapping "start charge" on the app/machine and the bloody thing not working.
I'd be happy if they limited the non-Teslas to a certain portion of the bays at a supercharger but if they all a free-for-all then that's a huge roll eyes from me. Yes, I'm in a stinking mood but it's already bad enough trying to find EV parking in some of the busiest cities because of hybrids and all the other trash that want to top up from 80-90% whilst they go for a sandwich, without worrying about finding a bay at a supercharger.
No. Well most don’t, particularly older ones but it’s becoming more common. Gridserve and Instavolt are leading the way there.
Exactly, I saw this earlier - £25k for their top spec mid size car. It makes the VW ID3 range appear to be over priced plastic boxes.
The new Kina looks great. The mid spec model is £35k which is creeping up into another category
Don't be too sure.
The £50k-£60k (i.e. not cheap) China EV's are BMW iX quality and performance for less than half the price.
Once the badge and OMG it's a car made in China issues have settled these will be very tempting
I've only skimmed the video but caught a moment where he said 'starts from £25k'?
A quick google suggests £25k is entry level, smallest battery etc. pricing, not 'top spec'
The Kona is a good car but compared to a £25k Orca Cat below it and the EV6 above it at £40k starting, it seems a tad expensive.
It’s effectively a jumped up Fiesta with a fairly average interior. It’s range and efficiency is brilliant though.
It’s effectively a jumped up Fiesta with a fairly average interior. It’s range and efficiency is brilliant though.
I did say there’s no way I would buy a cheapo Chinese BEV. If and that’s a big if, the quality was comparable and the infotainment was top notch and had the features that we have gotten used to then perhaps it would be worth having a look at but car purchases for some isn’t just down to price.
Traditionally Chinese cars were atrocious for safety, so they would need to massively improve on that
The Link & Co 01 (Chinese SUV) tested higher than the Audi Q4 e-tron in the EuroNCAP 2021 test. The NIO ES8 is up in top 10 too.
The Polestar 2 is 2nd and that’s built in China, also from a Chinese owned company.
It's really not funny. The major selling point of and benefit of owning a Tesla was the dedicated no-nonsense supercharger network.
Try that at a public charger and you enter the bloody EV squid game of trying to download a very specific app (because of course you really need 15 apps on your phone just incase you pull up to one you've never come across
- Pull up to a stall that has the cable, on the correct side of the vehicle
- Push the button on the end of the cable so that the car charging port opens
- Plug in and you're done.
- Your Tesla account knows your payment details so you don't even have to scan your card or use any app.
I say try, because some that I've come across won't actually activate certain types of charging without the app (Electric highway near me won't let you access anything >11kw unless you have the app) so then you spend 2 mins faffing around checking that:
- the person next to you hasn't used the cable on the "wrong" side of the car (come across this at Morrisons and I had my cable going from the charger to the rear left of my car and the girl next to me had hers going to the rear right but we were parked the "wrong" way, which ended up in a spaghetti mess of crossed cables).
- you then spend 2 minutes scanning QR codes / entering ID numbers for the specific charger to get the sodding thing to power on and more often than not they'll want to take a payment of £8/£10/£30 upfront before the charge begins.
- pray that the charger even works or you will be spending 10 minutes on a phone to someone trying to get your £56 back because the charger has taken 7 payments due to you tapping "start charge" on the app/machine and the bloody thing not working.
I'd be happy if they limited the non-Teslas to a certain portion of the bays at a supercharger but if they all a free-for-all then that's a huge roll eyes from me. Yes, I'm in a stinking mood but it's already bad enough trying to find EV parking in some of the busiest cities because of hybrids and all the other trash that want to top up from 80-90% whilst they go for a sandwich, without worrying about finding a bay at a supercharger.
Already some pretty obvious issues from the "trial" sites...
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Yup, that’s because the cable on the supercharger is designed to be only just long enough to fit in to a Tesla charging port, and that’s when you’ve reversed back to the reversing bumper.Already some pretty obvious issues from the "trial" sites...
So any car (example e-Tron) where the charging port is on a different side or further away than the longest Tesla then you end up with ^
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That picture has to be made up surely?
Just had a look at the latest ncap ratings, didn’t realise some of them have come so far safety wise. It will be interesting if they bring a high quality luxury saloon over, not interested in the raft of SUVs everyone seems to want to build and sell. I see NIO have the ET7
Nope, not made up. The eTron has the charge port on the other side to Tesla’s, so needs to take up two spaces when using Tesla SC’s.
Also, a Tesla wouldn’t be able to charge at the next available one along because when it reverses into the space, the Tesla charge port is on the left side (right side as we are looking at the photo), and the cable isn’t long enough to stretch across.