When are you going fully electric?

So the Polestar 4 is launched tomorrow and images just leaked show it has no rear window. Should be interesting to see the social media comments on this :p

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Simon said:
That makes no sense to have no window. What’s the benefit ? So you can have a camera instead but a coal bunker interior ?
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You couldn’t see much out of the back of the Polestar 2 so a camera does make more sense.

Wired UK published a P4 article but quickly took it down.
This is what the designer had to say on the rear window

"In the past, we've always had to provide an opening at the rear for a physical mirror" Polestar's head of design, Maximilian Missoni, tells WIRED. "Camera tech now is very high resolution, it works well at night time, and the software is constantly being upgraded so we can add value into the system over time. We could remove the rear window and move the whole structure
further back. It creates a cocoon."
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don't stand any chance at safely triangulating the distance of a car behind with a camera image, compared to a mirror.
(... does tesla vision have multiple forward cameras to triangulate distance. )

e: how tesla tries to do it
electrek.co

Hacker shows what Tesla Full Self-Driving's vision depth perception neural net can see

A hacker managed to pull Tesla’s vision depth perception neural net from his car with “Full Self-Driving” package. You can...
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maybe that's why white van man pulls out erratically to overtake,
only van I've driven was a rental Transit high wall for moving house, and wasn't going for any risky moves in that.
 
Cameras, fine, but why have door mirrors then? Might as well have been cameras all round. Perhaps those leaked pics are more of a concept and it will actually have a rear window, as I think not having one might be a step too far for some people.
 
To be fair the amount of cars I see with the rear wiper going with no rain indicates how little people use the rear view during normal driving... and when reversing I genuinely only use cameras nowadays...
 
I've had the car piled so high with stuff I couldn't see out of the rear window before and it's not actually much of an issue. Whether it'll make the cabin a bit dark and depressing is another matter and I'd probably not be keen on that, but the safety guff is nonsense innit
 
chanjy said:
I've had the car piled so high with stuff I couldn't see out of the rear window before and it's not actually much of an issue. Whether it'll make the cabin a bit dark and depressing is another matter and I'd probably not be keen on that, but the safety guff is nonsense innit
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The massive glass roof counters a dark interior

a full-length glass roof is standard, with the option of an electrochromic function to switch between opaque or transparent. Crucially, the glass roof stretches back and beyond the rear occupants’ heads, and finishes part of the way into the area in which a traditional rear window would sit.
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jpaul said:
don't stand any chance at safely triangulating the distance of a car behind with a camera image, compared to a mirror.
(... does tesla vision have multiple forward cameras to triangulate distance. )
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You do as I had one in my Evoque and discovery sport. There’s no need to use it as a tool to triangulate speed… it’s just a much wider better view of what’s behind. Will be even better on lower cars.

Why would Tesla vision need triangulation? Does it need to declare the distance in cm to other road users on the one screen it has? Nope. You use your eye. Put the glue down.
 
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