When are you going fully electric?
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The yoke was badly implemented because they should have used a variable rate steering system like the Lexus that also has a yoke style "wheel". I think it made your hands move about too much so it was harder to use the touch buttons. I'm sure most people will get used to it because it's different from what they were used to.
I don't think it would bother me and after 4 years of Tesla ownership one of the few things that annoys me is the standard stalks which require a fair push to actuate so occasionally I don't quite engage the indicators and have to do it again.
It looks like a reasonable update. The biggest selling point has to be the updated suspension - it’s probably the weakest part of the existing model 3. Ventilated seats are also a nice addition.
I can see that no stalks is going to be a very marmite thing, probably causing lots of opinions from people who have not used it. I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve driven it and <insert BMW driver joke here
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No mention of towing weights on the new chassis or if the boot opening was any bigger - it didn’t look to be.
The fog lamps look to be quite subtle now and the lights on the rear when the boot opened look very small - looks to be a better solution than the BMW iX though.
No changes to the motors and batteries but improved range from lower drag.
I can see that no stalks is going to be a very marmite thing, probably causing lots of opinions from people who have not used it. I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve driven it and <insert BMW driver joke here
>No mention of towing weights on the new chassis or if the boot opening was any bigger - it didn’t look to be.
The fog lamps look to be quite subtle now and the lights on the rear when the boot opened look very small - looks to be a better solution than the BMW iX though.
No changes to the motors and batteries but improved range from lower drag.
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It looks like a reasonable update. The biggest selling point has to be the updated suspension - it’s probably the weakest part of the existing model 3. Ventilated seats are also a nice addition.
I can see that no stalks is going to be a very marmite thing, probably causing lots of opinions from people who have not used it. I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve driven it and <insert BMW driver joke here
No mention of towing weights on the new chassis or if the boot opening was any bigger - it didn’t look to be.
The fog lamps look to be quite subtle now and the lights on the rear when the boot opened look very small - looks to be a better solution than the BMW iX though.
No changes to the motors and batteries but improved range from lower drag.
And the improved sound insulation. My biggest gripe in the M3s I have test driven or been in, was the poor comfort and the excessive wind noise at speed. By far the biggest for me was the fact it was OPD or nothing. I could get used to the layout of controls etc but I hate OPD
No but it also has a standard steering wheel, sans stalks of course.
yes that should be good too if it’s effective.
OPD?
So, my delivery for the ID4 is confirmed for the 2nd October. I have to admit, the comms from Lister VW at Stratford-upon Avon this week have been poor. First car delivery was from the 6th onwards, nope scratch that we can't do those dates. Settle on the date in middle of September. Receive another email saying that Zenith won't release the car for delivery until start of October.
If it arrives on time, then it would have been just under 10 months from order.
If it arrives on time, then it would have been just under 10 months from order.
The Stratford branch is poor in my experience, we ended up going to the one in L/Spa for our last car (non EV) which was much better.
That branch has now turned into a Volvo salesroom though, with a VW service centre round the back.
no pictures of the redesigned subframe on the model3 coming with new suspension ? - it sounds significant
The upgraded suspension provides a more premium ride with new springs & dampers, new geometry on the front suspension, new bushings, and a new way they mount the subframe to the chassis. Moreover, the tires now have more cushioning for an improved ride.
saw this whilst looking for any additional information though
- https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/t...vers-deep-cracks-in-front-suspension-casting/
2+2!=4 I guess
The upgraded suspension provides a more premium ride with new springs & dampers, new geometry on the front suspension, new bushings, and a new way they mount the subframe to the chassis. Moreover, the tires now have more cushioning for an improved ride.
saw this whilst looking for any additional information though
- https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/t...vers-deep-cracks-in-front-suspension-casting/
2+2!=4 I guess
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Why would they launch pictures of that aswell. It’s simply a minor tickle facelift just like the “legacy” automakers yet this time you actually have a clue what your Tesla might have. Just don’t check the front giga casting too close, the surprise of a crack might be somewhat disappointing…
I bet they have moved to a spigot type mount for improved alignement and control of frame to body. Who knows the massive rear subframe to body bushes might now be proper compliance bushes rather than a solid lump of aluminium like the launch model 3s…
I bet they have moved to a spigot type mount for improved alignement and control of frame to body. Who knows the massive rear subframe to body bushes might now be proper compliance bushes rather than a solid lump of aluminium like the launch model 3s…
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Got the option of a SS scheme at work now.....since I'm gonna have to be in the office two days a week starting next year, it's starting to look a bit more appealling.
380ish net cost for an ID.3 58kwh.
All inclusive so save the insurance, servicing, MOT, tyres, recovery, etc.
The problem is......charging. I'm in a terrace that front straight onto the street. I do have a ginnel I can put a charger in, so would be able to charge there if I get a spot outside. Not a stupidly busy street and on my WFH days it'll be a doddle to get it into that space. Failing that, there are 8 BP Pulse 7Kwh chargers a 5 minute walk away. They're in the village hall car park which is free to use, they seem to be mostly available.
£0.44 kwh to charge on them with a sub. So 25 quid to top it. Quoted 266 mile range.
56 miles each way for my commute....so maybe, possibly can do my two commutes between charges (I drive like a grandma anyway) on the 58kwh ID.3. The 77Kwh would make that quite comfortable, but harder to get hold of.
If I drive my Alphard, it's costing me 60 quid of premium each week.
Have another car in the house so have something for longer journeys, plus I free up a chunk of cash by selling the Alphard.
I really don't like the idea of commuting in the Alphard, from an environment perspective, burning a lot of fuel. I was looking into train instead, which would set me back £250 a month, and take longer.....making the SS look more appealing too.
Hrm.....
380ish net cost for an ID.3 58kwh.
All inclusive so save the insurance, servicing, MOT, tyres, recovery, etc.
The problem is......charging. I'm in a terrace that front straight onto the street. I do have a ginnel I can put a charger in, so would be able to charge there if I get a spot outside. Not a stupidly busy street and on my WFH days it'll be a doddle to get it into that space. Failing that, there are 8 BP Pulse 7Kwh chargers a 5 minute walk away. They're in the village hall car park which is free to use, they seem to be mostly available.
£0.44 kwh to charge on them with a sub. So 25 quid to top it. Quoted 266 mile range.
56 miles each way for my commute....so maybe, possibly can do my two commutes between charges (I drive like a grandma anyway) on the 58kwh ID.3. The 77Kwh would make that quite comfortable, but harder to get hold of.
If I drive my Alphard, it's costing me 60 quid of premium each week.
Have another car in the house so have something for longer journeys, plus I free up a chunk of cash by selling the Alphard.
I really don't like the idea of commuting in the Alphard, from an environment perspective, burning a lot of fuel. I was looking into train instead, which would set me back £250 a month, and take longer.....making the SS look more appealing too.
Hrm.....
@mid_gen Generally I don't recommend EVs to people that cannot charge at home. But I personally know one person who it works fine for, but then he is the type to actually enjoy a little extra planning.
So it comes down to how commited you are to the cause. Sounds like you have backup car anyhow.
Most people charge regularly, rather than use 100% to 0% as EVs generally charge up to 80% at a much higher rate than 80-100%
I would assume you will save time by doing a 10 minute charge after your first day in the office on the 58kWh and only charging over 80/90% for road trips.
So it comes down to how commited you are to the cause. Sounds like you have backup car anyhow.
Most people charge regularly, rather than use 100% to 0% as EVs generally charge up to 80% at a much higher rate than 80-100%
I would assume you will save time by doing a 10 minute charge after your first day in the office on the 58kWh and only charging over 80/90% for road trips.
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I still need to find out if we have chargers in the office.....I suspect not.Bug your work to put free chargers in the car park
Had a look at charging at home briefly..... Ovo just flat out say they won't install if you don't have off street parking.
Is this a common thing? I've seen people charging with a cable across the pavement, but is that limited to just a 30a plug?
Avoid the big companies as they tend to still follow the OLEV rules for chargers which they are paying grants towards. The grants for home owners ended long ago.
Any competent electrician can install one and there is nothing in the electrical regulations that require you to have off street parking.
The OLEV rules were mainly about stopping people getting grants (tax payers money) to install them in inappropriate places.
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