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Works of you mix the “Hydro” with carbon.
Otherwise it doesn’t… hence we are where we are.
I prefer mixing the 'Hydro' with 'Electric'
...but not water - that would end badly.
Works of you mix the “Hydro” with carbon.
Otherwise it doesn’t… hence we are where we are.
Have you googled hydrogen cars, it comes up with all the reasons why a hydrogen car has been discounted as a viable alternative to EVsOf course you can. But the way you imply is that you assume we can just pour hydro into an existing petrol tank...
Nope u don't. Of course there needs to be some adjustments but that for the experts to work on, not u and I.
Not everyone charging there cars is true but some will and that will have an additional load on the power grid which was my point..
I did say weight was a bonus.
Ev was a good concept too and look where we are?
No. I would need to research more about it.Ok, I'll assume you have no concept of how to handle, store and transfer hydrogen on the scales you'd need for mass transit adoption. Hint: there's a reason it has to be kept as cold as the universe and at stupidly high pressure.
Have you done any research into what our national grid can currently handle and whether any changes would need to be made to it, or are you just assuming it can't in it's current state?
Yes, it is a good concept and I like driving my Polestar 2. Your point?
I'll take a lookHave you googled hydrogen cars, it comes up with all the reasons why a hydrogen car has been discounted as a viable alternative to EVs
My point is eV had issues as well and look where we are today.Ok, I'll assume you have no concept of how to handle, store and transfer hydrogen on the scales you'd need for mass transit adoption. Hint: there's a reason it has to be kept as cold as the universe and at stupidly high pressure.
Have you done any research into what our national grid can currently handle and whether any changes would need to be made to it, or are you just assuming it can't in it's current state?
Yes, it is a good concept and I like driving my Polestar 2. Your point?
No. I would need to research more about it.
But from what you know, are you saying that if the brainiest humans on earth was to look into hydro fuel, they won't be able come up with solutions to these problems?
Not really no, this is not a technology problem, it’s the physics of moving hydrogen from liquid to a gas and from low pressure to high pressure.Its not perfect but with the right brains it could be improved.
From 10-80%, Yes. Newer models it is closer to 20.I assumed you and others also had the same reservations with ev saying how batteries are inefficient, dangerous and take a day to charge etc etc but look where we are now.
Ev can charge in 30 mins fast charge or less?
Yes, even less premium models are getting close to 300 miles and for the vast majority of people, this range is entirely unnecessary.Ev are efficient and y can get around 300 miles on it at average?
It’s really not that simple.Just like ev, we as humans could if we was bothered to address all of the stuff you have highlighted
Just on this point, this process releases more carbon than burning petrol and diesel in an ICE. It would be net negative for climate change, it would be only better for local air quality.4. Natural gas reforming still produces CO2 in the process of extracting the hydrogen which is bad.
Nothing wrong with hydro electric power.I prefer mixing the 'Hydro' with 'Electric'
...but not water - that would end badly.
It’s a problem to a solution.No. I would need to research more about it.
But from what you know, are you saying that if the brainiest humans on earth was to look into hydro fuel, they won't be able come up with solutions to these problems?
No matter what the brainiest person in the world says, it's the cost that will be the dictating force.No. I would need to research more about it.
But from what you know, are you saying that if the brainiest humans on earth was to look into hydro fuel, they won't be able come up with solutions to these problems?
But from what you know, are you saying that if the brainiest humans on earth was to look into hydro fuel, they won't be able come up with solutions to these problems?
I find it frankly hilarious that people think electricity is hard to make and distribute easily.
The only common thing between the way that hydrogen based vehicles and current ICE cars would be the same in refuelling at a pump that isn't anywhere near the same.
We literally have an entire distribution network of wires and pylons, and poles delivering electricity that is produced from many varied sources, and for the most part pushing that all into this distribution network. It's not harder to modify the ends of that network than in would be to create an entirety new distribution and containment system, not to mention generation.
People seem to be confusing convenience for the end user with ease of creation, distribution and consumption.
It'll be a cold day in hell before I'd ever go back to any sort of combustion based vehicle that requires oil/CO2 heavy fuels. Or forces me to charge regularly anywhere other that at my front door, the convenience is just too much to give up.
Two wrongs don't make a right though and the same argument applies to EV's.There really isn't any sustainable way I know of that you can get hydrogen that doesn't require electricity to begin with, in which case just use that to power the car...
The hydrogen colour spectrum| National Grid Group
From green to pink hydrogen, we reveal the rainbow of hydrogen colours and the different types of technology used to produce each. Here’s our guide to unlocking the current hydrogen colour code.www.nationalgrid.com
Clearly this country cannot support the production of electricity to support us if we all go EV, let alone everyone converting the heating of their property by heat pump.
Having to always think about how much charge the car has, range and where all the charging points are when you plan a journey (and hope they work and aren't busy) is pretty inconvenient tbh.
Then why were we dependant upon having to import more last year from fossil fuelled power stations based in other countries? https://www.energylivenews.com/2024/01/22/britain-hits-record-in-electricity-imports/Of course we can. Why would you think we can't?