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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

4K8KW10 said:
What is the reason behind these inflated shipping costs? Like CO2 emissions taxes?
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Lots of factors, not a single reason. Things like having most aircraft grounded due to the pandemic meant the free cargo space used in passenger planes for commercial goods stopped overnight, meaning demand for sea shipping skyrocketed, and as with everything that seems to be in demand meant limited space and more carge wanting that space than ever, thus pricing exploded.
 
Forecast doesn't look good. Back to school/Holiday seasons nearing also.

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4K8KW10 said:
What is the reason behind these inflated shipping costs? Like CO2 emissions taxes? [..]
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A number of factors, largely due to various aspects of supply chains being very long and very fragile. Deliberately so, as it had become the custom to do business that way. Not long before the pandemic, I read one manufacturer (not of graphics cards - the issue was pretty much universal) boasting about the fact that their entire manufacturing process could only exist for up to 4 hours at a time. Their supply chain was so fragile that a 4 hour delay in delivery at any time of any one of a variety of parts/materials would result in the entire manufacturing process shutting down. That was considered admirable. Very "efficient".

Then the pandemic hit and that imposed delays far larger than 4 hours as it affected every step of manufacturing from mining raw materials to delivering processed materials and parts to the manufacturer. Then it delayed distribution of the manufactured items. It also changed some aspects of how stuff was moved around the world and some aspects of how much was moved from where to where. That led to some massive shipping delays. Demand on some routes increased and there wasn't enough shipping capacity to match the increase. There are bottlenecks on many shipping routes that impose hard limits on the number of ships using that route per unit of time. A port has a limit on the amount of shipping it can handle (docking, offloading, port storage, rate of distribution from the port) and some ports had a large increase in shipping. Which they couldn't handle. So ships are just waiting at sea outside the ports in a traffic jam that can last 2 weeks. On top of delays at the bottleneck(s) en route to the port.

There might well have been increases in taxes, but that would have a much smaller effect. Shipping costs increased by as much as 800% in some cases. If you could get shipping at all.
 
Angilion said:
A number of factors, largely due to various aspects of supply chains being very long and very fragile. Deliberately so, as it had become the custom to do business that way. Not long before the pandemic, I read one manufacturer (not of graphics cards - the issue was pretty much universal) boasting about the fact that their entire manufacturing process could only exist for up to 4 hours at a time. Their supply chain was so fragile that a 4 hour delay in delivery at any time of any one of a variety of parts/materials would result in the entire manufacturing process shutting down. That was considered admirable. Very "efficient"
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So basically this is what happens to J.I.T manufacturing processes when there's a disruption to the supply chain.

I've read that there are plenty of empty containers sitting in ports but most ports don't have staff to load the empty containers back on to the cargo ships due to wide scale isolation/lock down etc.
 
non-grey market prices for AIB cards have dropped in past 48 hours.

3080 AIB = £999
6900XT AIB = £1,199

Cheapest I have seen since last November lol
 
The prices will come down when more reference model / Founders Edition cards are made available to buy. OR they offer pre-orders for reference models, which used to be possible when demand was much lower.

If AMD/Nvidia just keep going as they are, or stop reference model production entirely, things will likely stay the same for a long time.

Intel has a chance to turn things around :)
 
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Stock of 3060 TI must be coming through okay, I've seen around a £60 price drop on one sku in the last 3-days that sells out in about 20 minutes, it has very regular stock coming through.

No names mentioned obviously, but, still more expensive than the OcUK Zotac models though.
 
Nelly said:
Stock of 3060 TI must be coming through okay, I've seen around a £60 price drop on one sku in the last 3-days that sells out in about 20 minutes, it has very regular stock coming through.

No names mentioned obviously, but, still more expensive than the OcUK Zotac models though.
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Yes lots of 3060Ti stock coming, we have Gigabyte in stock, but the issue is only Zotac and Inno3D are the ones giving good price support, but saying that the deal is pretty much exclusive to ourselves and we still cannot get any information on whether they will maintain the deal for us in September or end it as other AIB's are very reluctant to drop the price because they can sell everything they have at the higher prices.....
 
serious_adam15 said:
This is for Ethereum, LHR cards have been able to mine on other algorithms since they started bringing them out. But price increases are mostly going to go up because Etherium is getting back up in price, and is becoming very profitable to miners again. but I dont see this getting much further than December.
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Providing the difficulty bomb drops and ETH turns to proof of state. Then we might get a break, but I guess things will shift to a new alt coin.
I wish mining was done with already, a lot of it is a waste of energy/eletric.
 
Angilion said:
A number of factors, largely due to various aspects of supply chains being very long and very fragile. Deliberately so, as it had become the custom to do business that way. Not long before the pandemic, I read one manufacturer (not of graphics cards - the issue was pretty much universal) boasting about the fact that their entire manufacturing process could only exist for up to 4 hours at a time. Their supply chain was so fragile that a 4 hour delay in delivery at any time of any one of a variety of parts/materials would result in the entire manufacturing process shutting down. That was considered admirable. Very "efficient".

Then the pandemic hit and that imposed delays far larger than 4 hours as it affected every step of manufacturing from mining raw materials to delivering processed materials and parts to the manufacturer. Then it delayed distribution of the manufactured items. It also changed some aspects of how stuff was moved around the world and some aspects of how much was moved from where to where. That led to some massive shipping delays. Demand on some routes increased and there wasn't enough shipping capacity to match the increase. There are bottlenecks on many shipping routes that impose hard limits on the number of ships using that route per unit of time. A port has a limit on the amount of shipping it can handle (docking, offloading, port storage, rate of distribution from the port) and some ports had a large increase in shipping. Which they couldn't handle. So ships are just waiting at sea outside the ports in a traffic jam that can last 2 weeks. On top of delays at the bottleneck(s) en route to the port.

There might well have been increases in taxes, but that would have a much smaller effect. Shipping costs increased by as much as 800% in some cases. If you could get shipping at all.
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Plus iR35 hitting truck drivers now and most of them have upped and left, leaving containers sitting around waiting to be delivered.
 
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