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I dunno. I seen plenty of gamers snapping up 3080/90 cards for well over a grand and two grand respectively.
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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I'm looking forward to getting a used 3070/6700 for a bargain price in about 5 months. I'll get a used 5800x as well to go with it. I've seen them go for £226.99 used. Absolute bargain!
Or might wait and see what the 4060/7600 availability and price is like first.
Or might wait and see what the 4060/7600 availability and price is like first.
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I think that there are people who have got a lot, or indeed all, of the price of their gpu back from mining so might be willing to unload them cheap, we will have to wait and see. Personally, it looks that I will be holding onto my 6800 as if the leaks are true the wattage is going up on AMD cards as well as Nvidia, and I don't want the extra power draw of a 7800xt
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You could limit your fps and run an undervolt. If the chance to either cash in or obtain a newer gen meant there was little outlay, I would rather have the newer gen with ~3x ray tracing improvement and ~2x raster improvement just so down the line you can play demanding titles or you upgrade your display.
Certainly get your point about trading in and up, but I don't expect this generation cards to hold their price that well once the new gen is out, so I expect a trade up to a 7800 16GB card to be fairly expensive. This card only cost me a vega56 as I kept trading up from it, sold the vega 56, bought a 3060ti FE, traded it in for the 6800. I am happy to keep the 6800 until it gives out as I spend most of my time in older games which don't need much gpu power. Hopefully as it has an easy life under 200watts most of the time it will last awhile
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It is a decent card for sure.
My only parting comment would be if people think currently the 30 series are about there with ray tracing (which many seem to be happy with adding DLSS in some titles), should AMD in this scenario leap to about 3x from where they are at, you are talking performance that beats all the 30 series by a margin but also get excellent rasterisation grunt. This would mean existing titles that get panned by reviewers; now comfortably playing games.
As it stands the 6000 series tends to be hit and miss with the strong ray tracing titles and usually leads to turning it off for the benefit of having great fps. Something I am closely following but from experience waiting to see it before believing it.
My only parting comment would be if people think currently the 30 series are about there with ray tracing (which many seem to be happy with adding DLSS in some titles), should AMD in this scenario leap to about 3x from where they are at, you are talking performance that beats all the 30 series by a margin but also get excellent rasterisation grunt. This would mean existing titles that get panned by reviewers; now comfortably playing games.
As it stands the 6000 series tends to be hit and miss with the strong ray tracing titles and usually leads to turning it off for the benefit of having great fps. Something I am closely following but from experience waiting to see it before believing it.
As some on here like to say performance in some games depends if the title is Nvidia or AMD. Here is an example of the 6800 beating the 3080 in ray tracing. I suspect because there is so little ray tracing, https://youtu.be/-Y26liH-poM?t=764
However, ray tracing definitely tanks the 6800 performance, and like you am looking forward to AMD improving on this. Perhaps increased power draw on the new gen cards in part is going to be because of improved ray tracing performance. I have noticed that power draw on my 6800 goes down in ray traced games, it is as though because the card is producing less fps in ray tracing it needs less power, compared to needing more power in raster games to produce more fps. Whereas you would imagine that as ray tracing is more demanding it would use more power
However, ray tracing definitely tanks the 6800 performance, and like you am looking forward to AMD improving on this. Perhaps increased power draw on the new gen cards in part is going to be because of improved ray tracing performance. I have noticed that power draw on my 6800 goes down in ray traced games, it is as though because the card is producing less fps in ray tracing it needs less power, compared to needing more power in raster games to produce more fps. Whereas you would imagine that as ray tracing is more demanding it would use more power
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While I agree with the caped FPS and undervolt, one should always keep in mind that if the game truly needs all the card can offer, then there is no point in limiting - or perhaps even undervolting. So it depends per game and user needs.
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I'm in a similar boat as I really want to upgrade from 2070S and I'm finding uhmm, "good deals" for 3080s that are still significantly above msrp and something in me just can't pull the trigger on a card that was released like 2 years ago ans still hasn't even gone back to around msrp. I'd feel like I got shafted big time. Those who got one at msrp won a bloody lottery.
I know I should be waiting for 4000 series at this point, especially that 2070S is still chugging along quite nicely, but I just keep browsing
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I would have agreed with your post if it was a 1070 or a 1080, but I think your super is enough to ride out the remaining few months and try bag one of the new gens at release.
Other option is to trade it with a miner who is into flux, turing cards are very good on that.
Other option is to trade it with a miner who is into flux, turing cards are very good on that.
Yeah, I agree, as I've said I know I should wait because it's doing well most of the time and I can still live with the dips in certain games, it's just that damn upgrade itch since I've had the card almost since release and recently upgraded from 4790k to 12700kf so started thinking about a new gpu to do it justice.
I'll most probably ride it out unless I find a decently priced 3080, even used but with proof of purchase.
I hope 4000 series will be more readily available. Well, I can hope at least
Same here tempted 6800 but price still too high for me with new gen on horizon. Sticking with my 2080. I've been checking prices but will now stop and check again in couple of months to see if dropped.
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Yeah that would be the smart move tbh, make that 2080 last you just a bit longer.
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I wouldn't be buying now, still priced higher than they shouu'd have been 2 years ago - and people are saying "great pricing Gibbo" - LMFAO.
NV and AMD are desperate to shift old tech and these aren't bargains by any means, mining is dead and suddenly NV want to sell cards to gamers instead of sellng thm in bulk to farms.
NV and AMD are desperate to shift old tech and these aren't bargains by any means, mining is dead and suddenly NV want to sell cards to gamers instead of sellng thm in bulk to farms.
I wouldn't be buying now, still priced higher than they shouu'd have been 2 years ago - and people are saying "great pricing Gibbo" - LMFAO.
NV and AMD are desperate to shift old tech and these aren't bargains by any means, mining is dead and suddenly NV want to sell cards to gamers instead of sellng thm in bulk to farms.
All sold out!
What matters is been cheapest in the market, there is demand and is always demand no matter if a product is 1 day old or 1000 days old, price it right and people will buy.
I am happy to take AMD's and NVIDIA's desperation and make deals and try to be cheapest, as it always gives a dramatic boost to sales, OcUK has some of the best GPU prices and customers are buying.
Cannot actually shut up shop for 3, 6, 9 or 12 months until next gen is here, still plenty of punters out there needing something today.
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That's the state of the market no need to take cheap shots at Gibbo. Many of us appreciate the insights he provides.I wouldn't be buying now, still priced higher than they shouu'd have been 2 years ago - and people are saying "great pricing Gibbo" - LMFAO.
NV and AMD are desperate to shift old tech and these aren't bargains by any means, mining is dead and suddenly NV want to sell cards to gamers instead of sellng thm in bulk to farms.