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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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more realistic price at last.
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I don't know why people turn their noses up at TU10x chips just because Samsung produces them. It's been Nvidia's most successful generation by far and offers consumers the best in class performance. What's not to like?
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Depends on the ambient temperature.
I can test with 25-30c swings either way using the same PC in the same room, depending upon the time of year and the weather outside.
In which case the 65c you quoted should be just fine.
I use "silent" PC cases with lower airflow and noise-absorbent panels, which tend to increase temps, but even at 85c when gaming, I've never had a graphics card overheat to the point of failure on me in 30 years of PC gaming.
How are you finding the 3070, btw? I have a 1080Ti, and might consider the 3070 down-the-road if the prices drop sufficiently (or a 4060, if they are in the same ballpark.)
My old 1060 (in a noise dampened case) used to bounce off this all the time; ran for years without a problem. GPUs are quite tough. That said, it's nice that my 3060 undervolts well and runs 75 degrees at much better fps in the same case. I appreciate that it kicks less heat out into the room too
I did this in early 2021, moved from a 1080Ti to a 3070 and I would actually recommend you don't do this now given the prices, I would move to a 3080 or wait and see what next gen looks like. I only bought the 3070 as it was all I could get my hands on at the time for anything like a none crazy price, via an OcUK Forum deal Gibbo did. The 3070 is a great card, mine is the Asus TUF which is a really nice model in particular and I would highly recommend it ....but not if you can get a 3080 for similar money to your 1080Ti now which you more or less can. The 3070 is certainly much faster than the 1080Ti, no doubt, about 30% faster I would say typically but if you really want to be wowed for having waited so long I would recommend a higher end card, unless you are mostly just interested in the new technology, DLSS, Ray Tracing and HDMI 2.1 of course, in which case ...yea go for it, the FE version is available at MSRP now which would make sense at £469 but if you are prepared to pony up £600+ go for a 3080 or a 6800XT I would say.
As per using it in an air restricted case, this model should be fine, it's cool and quiet due to the size and quality of it's cooler, I use the quiet Bios setting and I've run it in a mini ITX case albeit one of the ones with more airflow, the Coolermaster NR200 for a while and it only ran a couple of degrees warmer than when in my now Lian Li O11 air mini which has a lot more airflow including fans directly underneath it which I did not have in the NR200 due to space, although you could possibly fit low profile ones if you wanted. It should work well in an air restricted case with more space in it aswell, no matter what I do with it it never gets out of the mid 70s now and in the NR200 would hit high 70s ...but again that was on the quiet BIOS, if I let the fans spin faster it would cool it down more of course but I was trying to balance cooling and noise in favour of low noise.
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I'm probably not the best person to answer for you. As I've mentioned, I only have 2 titles I can play on VR currently and both (Project Cars more so) are CPU limited so I haven't been able to see the full potential of the 3070 yet. If I get a chance this evening I will try it out on my monitor on F1 2021 which is more GPU intensive and see what the improvement is.
This is partly why I went 3070 and not all out for the 3080. My use case is (relatively) small, as in I only play racing games which have never been all that demanding on the GPU. Plus, I knew I would be bottlenecked by the CPU so I wanted to try and save a few pounds for that inevitable upgrade...
I have a related hypothetical on which I was hoping folks could opine... le scénario:
Please don't say, "nothing, wait for Ada/RDNA3": in this scenario, you need a GPU now, not in 5 months.
- Suppose you had to buy a GPU right now, and you want a top-end card with =>16gb VRAM
- You play games at 4k
- You are not very impressed with RT support (although cognizant support will likely get better over the next year).
- You plan to hold onto the card for about a year before upgrading
Please don't say, "nothing, wait for Ada/RDNA3": in this scenario, you need a GPU now, not in 5 months.
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It's not so much if someone needs one now it's how many of those are out there, not many is my guess. If I was buying new it would have to be less than whatever I think the incoming replacement for that card is. So if 7700XT is going to be £500 I'd pay less than that for a 6900XT at this moment in time. Second hand even less, given no warranty.
Yeah, 3080 or better would be the sweet spot. Maybe 4060 might get there. Fingers crossed. With the delay to Starfield, I've plenty of time to see what the broader range of 40 Series cards deliver, I guess. Just hope pricing stays sensible this time around.
It's down to: What games are you playing and do they have DLSS, or FSR? And are you targeting 120+ fps? If the DLSS isn't there and you aim for 120fps then the 6900 XT becomes an easy choice given it could be almost half the price. If you exclude RT then AMD just becomes such a good choice, it's crazy the difference that feature makes when comparing cards. The thing about the 3090 is that it's just going to lose so much value so soon (especially if you keep it for only 1 year), it's hard to really recommend it today unless you're just flush with money, in which case the question doesn't need to be asked.
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Oh dear that's a bit awkward
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£650 - £700 tops but it must have warranty, without warranty £400
I wouldn't buy a halo 6900xt or 3090. I would buy a 6800xt so about £650 tops. Why buy a 6900xt or 3090 for hundreds more than a 6800xt? Halo products are soon outclassed when the next gen arrives, https://youtu.be/NbYCF_h2aVM?t=627
As a proxy for how cheap older GPUs should have been, I saw Nvidia K80s listed for like £180 recently, AFAIK these aren't desirable for miners and most gamers won't have flocked to them as alternatives so IMO they probs haven't been subject to the price inflation of other cards, they were like $5000 USD back in the day brand new and were still pricy in like 16, 17 etc. IIRC.
Arguably shouldn't stuff like the 1080ti, Titan Xp, 2080ti etc.. have been at more like sub £200 or less by now too? (If it weren't for miners and the knock-on effect of supply issues for gamers)
Arguably shouldn't stuff like the 1080ti, Titan Xp, 2080ti etc.. have been at more like sub £200 or less by now too? (If it weren't for miners and the knock-on effect of supply issues for gamers)