Where did the paranormal go?

azazl187 said:
Maybe they believed it for a reason?
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Well yeah, the simple reason is they're dumb/not very enlightened.

Same reason witches were burned back then.

Of course some people involved int hat sort of thing are fully aware that the victims of those actions weren't witches etc.. but were able to use these irrational beliefs for their own means like settling scores etc..
 
dowie said:
Well yeah, the simple reason is they're dumb/not very enlightened.

Same reason witches were burned back then.

Of course some people involved int hat sort of thing are fully aware that the victims of those actions weren't witches etc.. but were able to use these irrational beliefs for their own means like settling scores etc..
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Sounds like the kind of thing a witch would say. Hey everyone @dowie's a witch! Burn him!

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dowie said:
Well yeah, the simple reason is they're dumb/not very enlightened.

Same reason witches were burned back then.

Of course some people involved int hat sort of thing are fully aware that the victims of those actions weren't witches etc.. but were able to use these irrational beliefs for their own means like settling scores etc..
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This of course happened but back then there was a lot of knowledge about herbs and potions that were passed down from very early times. Christianity came along and tried to kill it all off by getting people to believe in something else.

There is a lot that has been forgotten to time.
 
azazl187 said:
This of course happened but back then there was a lot of knowledge about herbs and potions that were passed down from very early times. Christianity came along and tried to kill it all off by getting people to believe in something else.

There is a lot that has been forgotten to time.
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Herbs and potions that have an effect can rather easily be tested, I don't think the fact that herbs were used as medicine back then has been forgotten, some of it genuine some of it just complete bunk/placebo. Though active ingredients that do work are perhaps more easily sold and stored in pill form.

I mean would you rather have an unmeasured dose of say willow bark or just take an aspirin tablet containing the same active ingredient?
 
dowie said:
Herbs and potions that have an effect can rather easily be tested, I don't think the fact that herbs were used as medicine back then has been forgotten, some of it genuine some of it just complete bunk/placebo. Though active ingredients that do work are perhaps more easily sold and stored in pill form.

I mean would you rather have an unmeasured dose of say willow bark or just take an aspirin tablet containing the same active ingredient?
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I wouldn't care as long as it worked tbh :D. Taking it from source seems more earth friendly though.
 
I'm wondering if lizard men are going to be mentioned soon. Where's David when you need him?
azazl187 said:
This of course happened but back then there was a lot of knowledge about herbs and potions that were passed down from very early times. Christianity came along and tried to kill it all off by getting people to believe in something else.

There is a lot that has been forgotten to time.
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Er, never heard of the Salem Witch trials?

Also, no such word as "a lot" it's a lot.
 
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Angilion said:
What are? How did those underground tunnels survive the numerous underground nuclear explosions in the area? How far are you claiming this network of underground tunnels big enough to accomodate massive 18-wheel lorries in stretches? Just between nearby military facilities in that part of Nevada? The whole of the USA?
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That's besides the 1000s and 1000s of workers that would be needed for such a task and all have kept quiet a bit like the 400,000 working on Apollo 11 and the 1000s of Russian spies and Russian Government who also kept quiet about the fake moon landing.

Illuminist said:
Anything, and literally anything I say to someone who is a zipped up perfect society specimen is going to be laughed at and ridiculed, even if I have spoken no word of a lie since I posted on here.
You carry on without me, call me what you want.
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Nobody thinks you are lying, just totally misinformed and looking at experiences in a non normal way.
eg If you see a glass move on a Ouija board you'll think it's the paranormal, the rest of us will be looking round the room.
Even your name suggests that you're into that type of stuff, I was also called Illuminati back in the 70s for a while, really glad I was able to shift it.
When I was a young teenager I believed in all kinds of nonsense and then around the age of 19 I wanted proof.
 
dowie said:
Do you have any details of that allegation (I don't mean the court case but the claims about the facility being moved and indeed what exactly is being claimed to have been moved and indeed where to) - the other poster didn't mention any basis for his claims and he seems more like a UFO type?
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No, because it's just an allegation. Different people will claim different things have been moved. There's very little evidence about anything regarding most secret military bases and especially so for the Area 51/Groom Lake facility.

I mean if anything that seems like a reason not to move anything, since it is the only place in the US covered by that restriction, if anything if they weren't protected by the restriction then a coverup might be attempted or indeed just cease the practice of open pit burning re: those materials. That was related to the F117 program, there seems to be evidence of the base being used after that for the likes of the B2 program etc... and it is seemingly still used today so it isn't clear what exactly is supposed to have been moved in the first place? (Some chemicals from a discontinued fighter jet program that has since been superseded by the F22 and in turn potentially the F35. Possibly but some hazardous chemicals being moved != "Area 51 has moved").
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As I said before, the claimed reason for the partial move is that there is some contamination of the site itself, or of some parts of it. That would be a good reason to move some things, close some parts off, scale operations there down. The argument that past contamination with hazardous materials is a reason to not move anything doesn't hold water. The contamination, if it exists, would still be at that site. The presidential order exempting that site from the law would still cover that site. So the best course of action would be to leave the contamination at that site and move work to a different site.

They did slip up and publish details on an airforce website re: these chemicals:

https://web.archive.org/web/2010021...j_home/2006/May-21-Sun-2006/news/7488359.html
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But what else was there? We don't know. ~1000 nuclear bombs were exploded in that general area. The USA did do some research into chemical and biological weapons. There has been a lot of research into all sorts of materials, probably some of which would be hazardous (especially if burned in an open pit).

Note that I am not saying "I know the alien technology in the Groom Lake base was moved because someone who knows told me" or "I know that everything in the Groom Lake base was moved because someone who knows told me". I'm saying that it's plausible that some of the work done there has been moved due to contamination of the site.
 
Sounds a bit tenuous tbh... I don't think there is any evidence of contamination to the point where it required the site to be relocated (where were these allegations/claims made - got a link? It isn't like the contractors who were suing would have likely kept that quite either.) but rather the dodgy disposal of chemicals via some burn pits.... how people have made a leap from that to suggesting that some unspecified part of Area 51 has been moved... I'm not sure as clearly the base is still being used. It doesn't seem very plausible at all as it is seemingly based on nothing at all.
 
dowie said:
Sounds a bit tenuous tbh... [..]
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Of course it's tenuous. There's hardly any evidence of anything regarding the Groom Lake base, so any hypotheses are tenuous. Including yours. The only people who know what's going on there aren't talking about it. Assuming that there's anyone who knows all of what's going on there.
 
MookJong said:
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I had that book as a kid, and loved it! In fact, I had the whole Usborne set.

:)
 
Angilion said:
Of course it's tenuous. There's hardly any evidence of anything regarding the Groom Lake base, so any hypotheses are tenuous. Including yours. The only people who know what's going on there aren't talking about it. Assuming that there's anyone who knows all of what's going on there.
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Eh? I've not presented any hypothesis. But you presumably read this contamination/the had to move the base somewhere - I was just asking for some further detail? a Link etc..?
 
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