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Exactly, you don't have one
Where did the paranormal go?
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Whatcha gonna wear when you storm Area 51? I think a nice camp outfit with a hunting cap would probably suit you perfectly.
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They moved it years ago, it's a pointless event
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with all the talk of The Unexplained, that was the magazine we got into the house. there are still several of them in the roof space
link has one of the images that freaked me out, human combustion at its best
https://dawnfinch.co.uk/tag/unexplained-magazine/
link has one of the images that freaked me out, human combustion at its best
https://dawnfinch.co.uk/tag/unexplained-magazine/
It's worth noting that spontaneous human combustion is now largely explainable. Look up something called the wick effect.
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I saw this -
1998 experiment[edit]
A larger scale experiment conducted for the BBC television programme Q.E.D. involved a dead pig's body being wrapped in a blanket and placed in a furnished room. The blanket was lit with the aid of a small amount of petrol. The body took some time to ignite and burned at a very high temperature with low flames. The heat collected at the top of the room and melted a television. However, the flames caused very little damage to the surroundings, and the body burned for a number of hours before it was extinguished and examined. On examination it was observed that the flesh and bones in the burnt portion had been destroyed.[4]
Moved what?
Well that claim by the other poster doesn't appear to be "crap" - what facts do you have to dismiss it?
https://www.bmgresearch.co.uk/bmg-h...eve-ghosts-spirits-types-paranormal-activity/
"Women were also more likely than men – by a margin of 10 percentage points – to believe in the supernatural."
http://wrap.warwick.ac.uk/2942/1/WRAP_Williams_0675009-ie-160310-personality_and_paranormal.pdf
"Three main conclusions can be drawn from the data. First, in relation to sex differences in paranormal belief, the data demonstrate that within the sample females were more likely to hold paranormal beliefs than males (r = .19, p < .001). This finding is consistent with results reported by Wiseman and Watt (2004) and Wolfradt (1997)."
Wanting to attribute the supernatural or "aliens" to the unknown isn't "openminded" and dismissing beliefs presented without evidence isn't closed mindedness.
If it is kept from "us" then how do you know about it?
Nah, Area 51 is very much still there.
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I also love how people like Illuminist call me closed minded when I bet between the ages of 12 to 18 I had a bigger collection of paranormal material that I believed in and then when I became 'atheist' to those beliefs I still carried on watching documentaries and reading articles.
I still live in hope that somebody somewhere can show me 100% proof but I've come across nothing in all these decades.
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Nothing you posted there is proof, just as much as I can link to statistics and YouTube videos to the contrary.
Area 51s contents were moved in the 80s it was announced by American government and people that worked there.
How I know things is through first hand experience, like having a family member very high up in the military, like being in an underground laboratory myself. None of which I can prove. None of which you can prove I haven't.
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I used to sit at the right hand of God, prove I didn't.
I have a family member much higher up in the military than you do and she says it's nonsense - prove I haven't.
I'm 12 just like you and my Dad can beat your Dad up.
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I believe the last bit about your age. But not about your dad.
I love how you've turned into trying to directly attack me, have I challenged your delicate belief system?
I'm just pointing out, you cannot know everything and be sure about it. Especially by crying science that you don't study as a universal comfort blanket. Some people have experienced real things, again they cannot be all fake. Ask the millions and perhaps billions of claims over the years, only 0.0000001% of them need to be true to destroy everything you can and might say to me.
Well I'm the leader of the secret shadow government so there. And none of you are invited to Alienfest 2019. There's going to be soooo much tentacles! As usual the whole thing will be recorded with our shakiest, blurriest cameras; we'll burn most of the tapes except a couple which we'll accidentally on purpose send to some YT nutcase or other.
Now I've off to see the (alien) Queen for dinner and cow mutilation.
Now I've off to see the (alien) Queen for dinner and cow mutilation.
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You have called me close minded when you have no idea how much I've searched for paranormal truth for at least 48 years.
Nobody has ever proved anything.
Have I ever seen anything? Many times but I know it's my mind playing tricks.
I had a thread on here about 10 years ago where I saw a 'ghost' but a couple of weeks later I saw the 'ghost' again and all was explainable.
Some people go into this stuff believing anything while others need proof.
I don’t believe you, I literally just asked you what facts you were relying on to challenge the claim about women and you haven’t actually provided any while also replying to say you could????
What contents are you referring to? I’d assume rather a lot has been moved since the 80s, I mean I’d hope they’re using newer computers and testing different aircraft for a start! It’s definately still there though.
Having a family member, high up in the military, tell you stuff isn’t first hand experience! You’re not being very clear about what exactly they’ve told you. I mean are you sure they’re not just humouring their fantasist nephew?
What does you having visited an underground lab have to do with anything?
It seems to me that a person "high up in the military" with an extremely high security clearance wouldn't be telling highly classified military secrets to their relatives. Not things so secret that hardly anyone even knows they exist. Usually not anything at all. If they did, they certainly wouldn't want that relative talking about it on a public forum on the internet.
As for Area 51, it's mostly empty desert. It's the base in the middle of it that's where something is. Even if the USA government did announce that everything was moved out of it in the 1980s, that doesn't mean it was. It's a secret military base, so of course the authorities would lie about it if doing so served their purpose. They officially denied it existed for ages, even though everyone knew it was there.
Given how much attention the USA authorities have drawn to Area 51, my guess is that its main purpose is to be a distraction from the real super-secret military research facility. Build the real one somewhere, disguise it as something boring, get everyone looking somewhere else, job done. But that's just a guess. Like almost everyone else, I know nothing for certain about the Groom Lake base in Area 51.
There is a plausible hypothesis that the base was contaminated with something and mostly abandoned as a result. Maybe it was. There are plenty of things it could have been contaminated with in the past. Nuclear, biological and chemical. Or maybe that's a lie spread by the authorities too. Who knows? There is a rather dodgy presidential order forbidding a legal investigation bought by some people who claim they were seriously harmed by hazardous materials at the site.
As for Area 51, it's mostly empty desert. It's the base in the middle of it that's where something is. Even if the USA government did announce that everything was moved out of it in the 1980s, that doesn't mean it was. It's a secret military base, so of course the authorities would lie about it if doing so served their purpose. They officially denied it existed for ages, even though everyone knew it was there.
Given how much attention the USA authorities have drawn to Area 51, my guess is that its main purpose is to be a distraction from the real super-secret military research facility. Build the real one somewhere, disguise it as something boring, get everyone looking somewhere else, job done. But that's just a guess. Like almost everyone else, I know nothing for certain about the Groom Lake base in Area 51.
There is a plausible hypothesis that the base was contaminated with something and mostly abandoned as a result. Maybe it was. There are plenty of things it could have been contaminated with in the past. Nuclear, biological and chemical. Or maybe that's a lie spread by the authorities too. Who knows? There is a rather dodgy presidential order forbidding a legal investigation bought by some people who claim they were seriously harmed by hazardous materials at the site.
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I love how you say everything you have said is "fact", yet cant cant prove any of it. If i was in your shoes years ago and believed in what you said had happened to you, i would have definitely tried to record it some how, or at least document it. If you did then great, show us, but my guess is its all make believe.
I'm open to believing in the Paranormal (and did when i was younger), but its people like you that make it so hard believe in with your wild claims with zero proof, you just sound a bit mad.