Where is the first floor?

TheBDog · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:16

Wow! I'm impressed this is still going on.

They're both what we like to call NAMING CONVENTIONS. A convention is a guideline with respect to situation and often, thanks to the extent English language, with respect to PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

Now, I don't wanna confuse anyone here but might I suggest not arguing about the PERSONAL PREFERENCE of whoever designed/ named the floors of individual buildings?

If I recall correctly, in Japan many hospitals were built without a 4th floor. And by this I mean, in their NAMING CONVENTION, they go Floor 1>Floor 2> Floor 3> Floor 5... etc. The reason being is that (one of) the Japanese words for the number 4(shi, if you're interested) also means 'death' and so the designers(/whoever named the floor) decided 'maybe we don't wanna have a floor in a hospital called death'.

In summation, people can name their floors whatever the hell they want. Christ! Thank you for your time.

m4rk84 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:20

TheBDog said:
In summation, people can name their floors whatever the hell they want. Christ! Thank you for your time.

Honestly I think most people in here simply have nothing better to do, I think we are all only semi-serious.

However I don't think it's an argument about preference, we are simply debating which system makes the most logical sense. It's obvious people can name the floor whatever the hell they like, as much is apparent when you walk into any building that has a weird system in place.

I would argue though that if your going to name your flooring system using an illogical system which completely skips 0 and goes from 1 to -1 on the number line you instantly would be just as well served naming your floors after characters in south park. As soon as you skip a number there's no longer a point in using a numerical system, it's broken.

dan958 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:22

m4rk84 said:
Honestly I think most people in here simply have nothing better to do, I think we are all only semi-serious.

This.

It's just a thread that is easy to reply too, go back to work for a bit and then read the responses a bit later.

window · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:24

in my house the ground floor is called hell and upstairs its called heaven. the loft is just called the loft.

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:24

what's the word above Epic?

That's what this thread is

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:25

Raymond Lin said:
I asked you 3 questions.

If its in the order they were built, I just gave you a scenario where it was built at the same time.

If it is when the customer walks into the building, what does it not matter? That was half your argument ! What logical pattern are you presenting here exactly?

By missing out the ground floor totally ?

To be totally honest mate, I forgot which side I was on around page 4

Hades · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:27

Guys it's simple... The 1st floor is the second floor up. OBVIOUSLY!

Ground floor
Mezzanine floor
1st floor

Simples.

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:29

Grrrrr!!!!

walked in town at lunch. Debenhams had a window sign saying 'SuperDry collection on the Ground Floor'

left my phone in the office else I would have taken a photo and posted it on here

Raymond Lin · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:30

glen8 said:
Grrrrr!!!!

walked in town at lunch. Debenhams had a window sign saying 'SuperDry collection on the Ground Floor'

left my phone in the office else I would have taken a photo and posted it on here

Did you forget you are in England and not America?

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:30

If there was a two tiered shed on the 3rd floor of a hotel, and you were in the shed on the top tier, what floor would you be on?

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:31

Raymond Lin said:
Did you forget you are in England and not America?

I met my mom for brunch, we had steak and pancakes, then went to fill the car up with gas

Gilly · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:33

m4rk84 said:
I would argue though that if your going to name your flooring system using an illogical system which completely skips 0 and goes from 1 to -1 on the number line you instantly would be just as well served naming your floors after characters in south park.

Or a random name, like Ground?

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:35

I hate the number zero, it means nothing

m4rk84 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:41

Gilly said:
Or a random name, like Ground?

What's your point? Both systems have a ground.

In the UK system Ground=0 in the American system Ground=1.

Lysander · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:42

glen8 said:
I hate the number zero, it means nothing

I c wut u did thar

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:45

I've just had a thought :eek:

Ground floor technically doesn't have to be a floor at all. My original thinking was that because it had the word floor in it, it had to be a floor. That was an error on my part.

How many other things have words associated with them that has nothing to do with it

Floor Mop............has the word floor in it, yet it's a mop not a floor

Hot Dog..........it's hot, but it's a sausage from a pig not a dog

Lysander · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:47

glen8 said:
Hot Dog..........it's hot, but it's a sausage from a pig not a dog

Wiki said:
The term dog has been used as a synonym for sausage since 1884 and accusations that sausage makers used dog meat date to at least 1845.[18] In the early 20th century, consumption of dog meat in Germany was common.[19][20] The suspicion that sausages contained dog meat was "occasionally justified".[21]

glenimp617 · 27 Feb 2014 at 13:48

well, you learn something new every day

Gilly · 27 Feb 2014 at 14:10

m4rk84 said:
What's your point? Both systems have a ground.

In the UK system Ground=0 in the American system Ground=1.

I don't recall seeing a 0 in any lifts or on any signage recently. They all say Ground. Why does it have to be alphanumeric? Surely a numeric system covers all bases?

The Dread Pirate · 27 Feb 2014 at 14:13

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