Which mobo/CPU/RAM upgrade from my 2500k?
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depends on how much you want to spend.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £82.99
- 1 x Antec EarthWatts Gold Pro 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £96.95
- 1 x Bitfenix Whisper M Series 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £99.95
- 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £104.99
Total: £396.58 (includes shipping: £11.70)
first is non-modular, second is semi-modular, last 2 are fully modular
first has 5 yr warranty, middle 2 have 7 yr warranty, last has 10 yr warranty
Thanks!
Right, looking at this for my upgrade:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £91.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600 3.90GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £149.99
- 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £99.95
- 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £104.99
Total: £458.02 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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Right, looking at this for my upgrade:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £91.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600 3.90GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £149.99
- 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £99.95
- 1 x Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £104.99
Total: £458.02 (includes shipping: £11.10)
I have the Seasonic Focus Plus 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply and it is a very good power supply.
The ryzen 2600 will have enough processing power i think and the ram is fine but don't know about motherboard as i am no expert.
Enjoy.
Yeah, the motherboard is the only part where I'm basically taking advice as opposed to knowing what the pros and cons are!
Some motherboards are a ridiculous price and I have no idea how they are supposedly so much better that the Gigabyte one!
Right - Santa delivered my new parts today 
and so far the install has gone surprisingly well! *crosses fingers*
Now I need to establish how things have (hopefully) improved in comparison to my old system so I ran the Passmark benchmark test before I installed the new kit and again straight after installation - here are the results:
i5 2500K @ 4.3GHz & 16GB Kingston DDR3 RAM
Ryzen 2600 @ stock & 16GB T-Force Vulcan DDR4 RAM
Now obviously I was looking for a generous improvement and the "CPU Mark" jumping from 8577.9 up to 14160.8 is (I assume!) a decent bump, however, the overall score only going from 4712 to 4906 is not as big of a jump as I was expecting and I'm wondering whether there is a problem with the RAM - since the "Memory Mark" has dropped from 2662.9 down to 1932.1!?!?!?
I've got the 2 memory modules in the "dual channel" configuration - although I have just noticed that I have put them in slots 1 and 2 - and according to the motherboard manual this is for "Channel B" - although I've had a look at putting them in slots 3 and 4 but the CPU fan actually obscures slot 4 slightly!?!? (great design there Gigabyte!)
Has anyone got any suggestions as to whether there might be an problem here??
and so far the install has gone surprisingly well! *crosses fingers*Now I need to establish how things have (hopefully) improved in comparison to my old system so I ran the Passmark benchmark test before I installed the new kit and again straight after installation - here are the results:
i5 2500K @ 4.3GHz & 16GB Kingston DDR3 RAM
Ryzen 2600 @ stock & 16GB T-Force Vulcan DDR4 RAM
Now obviously I was looking for a generous improvement and the "CPU Mark" jumping from 8577.9 up to 14160.8 is (I assume!) a decent bump, however, the overall score only going from 4712 to 4906 is not as big of a jump as I was expecting and I'm wondering whether there is a problem with the RAM - since the "Memory Mark" has dropped from 2662.9 down to 1932.1!?!?!?
I've got the 2 memory modules in the "dual channel" configuration - although I have just noticed that I have put them in slots 1 and 2 - and according to the motherboard manual this is for "Channel B" - although I've had a look at putting them in slots 3 and 4 but the CPU fan actually obscures slot 4 slightly!?!? (great design there Gigabyte!)
Has anyone got any suggestions as to whether there might be an problem here??
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It's not gigabytes fault you bought tall ram! Its the same with loads of boards innit.
Anyway, is the ram overclocked/running full speed in the bios?
Anyway, is the ram overclocked/running full speed in the bios?
Right - Santa delivered my new parts today
Now I need to establish how things have (hopefully) improved in comparison to my old system so I ran the Passmark benchmark test before I installed the new kit and again straight after installation - here are the results:
i5 2500K @ 4.3GHz & 16GB Kingston DDR3 RAM
Ryzen 2600 @ stock & 16GB T-Force Vulcan DDR4 RAM
Now obviously I was looking for a generous improvement and the "CPU Mark" jumping from 8577.9 up to 14160.8 is (I assume!) a decent bump, however, the overall score only going from 4712 to 4906 is not as big of a jump as I was expecting and I'm wondering whether there is a problem with the RAM - since the "Memory Mark" has dropped from 2662.9 down to 1932.1!?!?!?
The overall score is the mean value of the other 5 - you have the CPU score up by 65%. And you didn't even put the 2600 to 4.2GHz all cores.
The RAM sticks don't look to be any taller than any RAM I've seen in the past!?!?
Either way I've run CPU-Z and it's telling me that the DRAM frequency is 1197.1 MHz - presumably this is then doubled to make circa 2400 MHz and my understanding of the RAM I've bought is that it can/should run at 3000 MHz - so off the back of this assumption I went into the BIOS and enabled the "XMP" which looked to bump the speed up to 3000 MHz - only for the machine to blue screen on me on reboot (and 3 subsequent reboots) - so I'm assuming I need to do something manually??
Either way I've run CPU-Z and it's telling me that the DRAM frequency is 1197.1 MHz - presumably this is then doubled to make circa 2400 MHz and my understanding of the RAM I've bought is that it can/should run at 3000 MHz - so off the back of this assumption I went into the BIOS and enabled the "XMP" which looked to bump the speed up to 3000 MHz - only for the machine to blue screen on me on reboot (and 3 subsequent reboots) - so I'm assuming I need to do something manually??
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Make sure your bios and drivers especially chipset drivers are up to date.
If that doesn’t help use XMP but drop the ram speed down one divider to 2933. Or possibly even down again in speed. Ryzen works best with Samsung Bdie based ram, it is likely yours is Hynix based which can run slower.
If that doesn’t help use XMP but drop the ram speed down one divider to 2933. Or possibly even down again in speed. Ryzen works best with Samsung Bdie based ram, it is likely yours is Hynix based which can run slower.
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As above, update bios for full ram speeds, it took and age for my sons motherboard to be bios updated to get the (Hynix) ram past 2400 to 3000...ryzen really benefits from ram speed... update and get it as high as you can.
Also you are right on the ram sticks, sorry, the design makes them look a bit taller than they are to my eyes.
Also you are right on the ram sticks, sorry, the design makes them look a bit taller than they are to my eyes.
How do I check to see what chipset version I'm on? I've been on the support tab for my motherboard and under chipset I can download version 18.10.20.02 - but when I run the setup exe file it (eventually) takes me to an "AMD software" installation where it checks for new drivers and then gives me the option to install 18.12.2 - which is obviously different to "18.10.20.02"!?!?!
Also, according to CPU-Z I'm running the "F2" BIOS but there is an "F3" that was released yesterday but I just get a page of nonsense if I try and download the "Europe" version??
Go there https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#support-dl-bios and click the Asia link
Go there https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#support-dl-bios and click the Asia link
Thanks - I hadn't realised it was simply the server - I thought the "Europe" BIOS might be different somehow!
Chipset-wise though, I've put the CD in that came with the motherboard and the chipset version is listed as 17.40 - I presume I can ignore this since my "AMD Software" version is already 18.12.2 (although there is an "option update" showing in the AMD control panel listed as 18.12.3 - is this the chipset or something else??
Well, since yours is 18.12.2 and newer than the required 18.10.20.02, I think you are safe to proceed to updating the BIOS. Just be careful not to turn off the supply while updating.
The latest chipset version on Gigabyte website is 18.10.20.02 so maybe try that one just to see if it gives you a message saying you already have a later version etc. The 18.12.3 might just be the control panel build version.
That's the thing - I downloaded the 18.10.20.02 file, double clicked on the setup file and it opened up the AMD control panel - I couldn't see any way of specifically updating just the chipset drivers!?!?
In the meantime I've managed to get the BIOS updated to F3 and went back in to try the "XMP" profile - same results with the PC blue-screening within 30 seconds - I also then tried manually inputting the required speed (I simply over-typed the Syetem Memory Multiplier from "Auto" to 29 and it defaulted to 29.33 (which in turn changed the memory frequency to 2933MHz (although to the right in the BIOS is showed as "30.00 and 3000MHz??)
Anyway, tried this and had the same problem with the blue screen so went back to stock - only now I keep getting an error message saying "LoadLibrary failed with error 126: The specified module could not be found"!?!?!?!
