Which mobo/CPU/RAM upgrade from my 2500k?

When you install the chipset drivers it looks similar to installing the Gpu drivers for AMD. It normally warns you if you have the same or newer.

If you look on the reviews for your memory On ocuk its suggested 2800 is the highest stable speed for Ryzen. I would give that a go. With Ryzen generally higher quality memory based on Samsung bdie gets the best results. 2800 will be fine.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Ok, then, which memory frequency do the modules get stable at?
Did you try slots 2 & 4 or 1 & 3?
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So far the system has only ever been stable at 2400MHz (ie. stock) - although I've only tried the default XMP profile (3000MHz) and the 2966MHz as suggested by @DarkHorizon472 above - the latter seemed to prompt the "LoadLibrary" error so I've done another fresh reinstall to get rid! Slot-wise the modules are in slots 1 and 2 (as they are numbered 1,3,2,4 on my board - definitely running in dual channel!) - but I'm going to struggled to put them in the other slots without taking my CPU cooler off because it overhangs a little!)

DarkHorizon472 said:
When you install the chipset drivers it looks similar to installing the Gpu drivers for AMD. It normally warns you if you have the same or newer.

If you look on the reviews for your memory On ocuk its suggested 2800 is the highest stable speed for Ryzen. I would give that a go. With Ryzen generally higher quality memory based on Samsung bdie gets the best results. 2800 will be fine.
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Well that's a bit annoying - I guess I should have read the reviews but didn't think to and just assumed RAM was RAM so to speak!

I'll give 2800MHz a go to see if that helps - do I need to change any other settings other than the "System Memory Multiplier"? (ie. voltage etc?)
 
StevieP said:
So far the system has only ever been stable at 2400MHz (ie. stock) - although I've only tried the default XMP profile (3000MHz) and the 2966MHz as suggested by @DarkHorizon472 above - the latter seemed to prompt the "LoadLibrary" error so I've done another fresh reinstall to get rid! Slot-wise the modules are in slots 1 and 2 (as they are numbered 1,3,2,4 on my board - definitely running in dual channel!) - but I'm going to struggled to put them in the other slots without taking my CPU cooler off because it overhangs a little!)



Well that's a bit annoying - I guess I should have read the reviews but didn't think to and just assumed RAM was RAM so to speak!

I'll give 2800MHz a go to see if that helps - do I need to change any other settings other than the "System Memory Multiplier"? (ie. voltage etc?)
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No that should be it. Just see what is the highest you are completely stable at. You can get more into playing with the settings such as voltage to get higher speeds if you have time, just check on the web to see what settings people use for your ram.
 
No worries, I just followed the early advice and never thought to even check something like that to be honest!

I've ramped up the multiplier to 28 and so far *touch wood* my system hasn't crashed!

I re-ran the Passmark benchmark and now I'm getting this:

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Obviously an improvement on the 1932 score previously but still alarmingly lower than the 2662 that I got on my old system with DDR3 RAM - is there any specific reason that I am getting a lower score with a lot newer (and supposedly) faster RAM??

Is it worth me returning/selling the Vulcan RAM and getting something that will run stable at a higher speed?
 
Now, you have it stable at DDR4 2800. What timings? Can you try to tighten the timings/latencies?

My guess is that PassMark might be optimised for memory with lower latencies, so produces higher results with timings like 11-11-something...
 
I wouldn't say stable - in so much as I got another blue screen while setting up Windows Mail! :(

Not having a clue as to what changing timings/latencies etc does I'm wondering whether I would be better off just getting some more suitable RAM that is more likely to run at the optimal speed for my motherboard - can anyone recommend some "better" RAM?
 
StevieP said:
I wouldn't say stable - in so much as I got another blue screen while setting up Windows Mail! :(

Not having a clue as to what changing timings/latencies etc does I'm wondering whether I would be better off just getting some more suitable RAM that is more likely to run at the optimal speed for my motherboard - can anyone recommend some "better" RAM?
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Samsung B Die but it costs a lot more.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £178.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
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Or something a little bit cheaper that is on the QVL list (Assuming you don't mind RGB).

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £158.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)​
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You can have a look through the Ram QVL list if you want to search for other Ram that has been tested. Make sure you select the 'Pinnacle Ridge' option

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#support-doc
 
StevieP said:
I wouldn't say stable - in so much as I got another blue screen while setting up Windows Mail! :(

Not having a clue as to what changing timings/latencies etc does I'm wondering whether I would be better off just getting some more suitable RAM that is more likely to run at the optimal speed for my motherboard - can anyone recommend some "better" RAM?
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The 8 pack 3200 memory above is high quality and bdie. Almost all on Ryzen just plug it in , set memory to auto and it boots fine at 3200 c14. That’s why I changed to it from Corsair lpx which only worked at 2933c16 and also I expected to keep the ram while upgrading to a faster later generation Ryzen cpu so it would run at a higher speed.
 
Here is mine,

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Specs are ryzen 2700 x at stock, 2x8 gb of 8 pack ram @ 1600 or 3200mhz @ 14-14-14-31 and the motherboard is a gigabyte x470 aorus gaming 7 wifi and graphics card is a gtx 1070 and the hard drive is a 2 tb solid state disk drive which is called > Western Digital WDS200T2B0A WD Blue 3D NAND Internal SSD 2.5 Inch SATA, 2 TB - Black .
 
lltfdaniel said:
Here is mine,

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Specs are ryzen 2700 x at stock, 2x8 gb of 8 pack ram @ 1600 or 3200mhz @ 14-14-14-31 and the motherboard is a gigabyte x470 aorus gaming 7 wifi and graphics card is a gtx 1070 and the hard drive is a 2 tb solid state disk drive which is called > Western Digital WDS200T2B0A WD Blue 3D NAND Internal SSD 2.5 Inch SATA, 2 TB - Black .
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Thanks ever so much for this - nice to have something to compare against!
 
Quick update on this - I decided to leave the RAM at it's stock setting just to make sure the rig was stable.....aaaand it's not! :(

I booted up The Division and it managed to crash to a blue screen with the stop code "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" and the what failed as "dxgkrnl.sys"

I have no idea what these errors mean (I've taken a few photos of the error screens and they all seem to be different!?!) but it's obviously alarming that my PC isn't stable even at stock!

Can anyone give me any pointers as to how I identify when the problem is??
 
StevieP said:
Quick update on this - I decided to leave the RAM at it's stock setting just to make sure the rig was stable.....aaaand it's not! :(

I booted up The Division and it managed to crash to a blue screen with the stop code "KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED" and the what failed as "dxgkrnl.sys"

I have no idea what these errors mean (I've taken a few photos of the error screens and they all seem to be different!?!) but it's obviously alarming that my PC isn't stable even at stock!

Can anyone give me any pointers as to how I identify when the problem is??
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Try with different memory slots, which mean the CPU cooler should be checked.
 
Gotcha!

I've managed to get the sticks into slots 3 and 4 (so they are spaced with a gap (2) in between them) with slot 4 being the closest to the CPU cooler - luckily the stick fits just underneath the overhang of the cooler! (I'm not entirely comfortable with them pretty much touching though!)

Other than trying The Division again, what tests can I run to try and establish what the problem could be?
 
StevieP said:
Gotcha!

I've managed to get the sticks into slots 3 and 4 (so they are spaced with a gap (2) in between them) with slot 4 being the closest to the CPU cooler - luckily the stick fits just underneath the overhang of the cooler! (I'm not entirely comfortable with them pretty much touching though!)

Other than trying The Division again, what tests can I run to try and establish what the problem could be?
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Well, try to up the memory to 3000 MHz and see if it is stable. Also, slots 2&4 and 1&3 until you reach stable memory at 3000.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Well, try to up the memory to 3000 MHz and see if it is stable. Also, slots 2&4 and 1&3 until you reach stable memory at 3000.
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I'll give the XMP setting another blast but from what @DarkHorizon472 said above, my particular RAM doesn't appear to play well above 2800MHz (or in my case, even at stock! :confused:)

However, according to my motherboard manual, in order to run memory in dual channel mode, I have to use either slots 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 (and I've checked this as I previously tried them in 1 & 3 and CPU-Z reported the memory running in single channel mode!
 
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