Which mobo/CPU/RAM upgrade from my 2500k?

I found some old "Arctic MX-3" which looks to be fine - although I've done a horrendous job applying the paste because for some reason the plate that the CPU cooler screws into on the rear of the motherboard has become loose and so I had to hold it in place with my left hand while pushing the cooler on to the chip and screwing it in! (I dread to think how badly the paste is smeared across it!)

Anyway, I decided to give The Division a go and played it for half an hour or so - according to Core Temp the max it reached was 76°C - so a definite improvement over my 95°C from before!!!!

Is 76°C an acceptable temperature for the Ryzen chips while gaming or should I be looking to try applying the paste again??

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Whoa!?!? After posting the above I've glanced at the min and max temps and for some reason the max temp is now showing as 207°C!?!?! :eek:
 
On the first generation ryzens “SenseMI Skew” had to be set in bios to give the lowest idle temp for non x series ryzens. It only has three settings auto, enabled and disabled. It is an offset used to report higher temps so the fans run faster from the explaination given. Mine was idling at 40c until I changed it and dropped to about 30c afterwards which is the correct temp.
 
DarkHorizon472 said:
On the first generation ryzens “SenseMI Skew” had to be set in bios to give the lowest idle temp for non x series ryzens. It only has three settings auto, enabled and disabled. It is an offset used to report higher temps so the fans run faster from the explaination given. Mine was idling at 40c until I changed it and dropped to about 30c afterwards which is the correct temp.
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Is this something that I should be doing then? (unsure if my chip is "first generation"??) - if not is there an equivalent setting I should be tinkering with?

I've downloaded CPUID HWMonitor to supplement the Core Temp readings - just had another quick blast on The Division and Core Temp is saying it reached 76°C (I reset the min/max settings to get rid of the strange 207°C reading!) while HWMonitor gives me separate temps for each of the cores and the max for these read as follows:

TMPIN0 - 37°C
TMPIN1 - 47°C
TMPIN2 - 73°C
TMPIN3 - 49°C
TMPIN4 - 54°C
TMPIN5 - 61°C

Not far off from Core Temp but it seems a bit strange that one is as low as 37 and one is as high as 73!?!?
 
StevieP said:
Holy cow - I didn't realise how difficult it would be to buy some basic rubbing alcohol from a shop in the UK!?!?! :confused:

Either way I need to buy some new thermal paste but while I was looking I saw a Liquid MetalPad and wondered whether I might be better off with one of these as opposed to the paste? (assuming they serve the same purpose??)

Are these any good or better/worse than regular thermal paste or do they do something completely different?
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I feel your pain. I tried several places all over town before i had to give up with the highstreet and buy from a large online retailer.
 
StevieP said:
readings - just had another quick blast on The Division and Core Temp is saying it reached 76°C (I reset the min/max settings to get rid of the strange 207°C reading!) while HWMonitor gives me separate temps for each of the cores and the max for these read as follows:
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I use hwmon as well. Can't really say why one core is hotter than the rest tbh.
 
Thanks guys!

I'll keep an eye on the temps, especially when gaming, but given the abomination that was my thermal paste application I've a feeling that if and when I decide to overclock this bad-boy, I'll just get myself a better cooler!

Backplate-wise though, is is usual for the backplate to essentially be loose? I'm sure it was held in place with I first attached the cooler so it seems weird that it isn't held/screwed to the motherboard!?!?
 
tamzzy said:
I don't think the backplate should be loose
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I'm inclined to agree - don't get me wrong it's solid when the cooler is screwed in and tightened up but it doesn't make for an easy installation due to having to hold the damned thing in place while trying desperately to put the cooler on flat to spread the thermal paste!!

Worth returning for this do we think?
 
StevieP said:
don't get me wrong it's solid when the cooler is screwed in and tightened up but it doesn't make for an easy installation due to having to hold the damned thing in place while trying desperately to put the cooler on flat to spread the thermal paste!!
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no it's normal for it to be loose if the cooler is not screwed in.
if it's loose when the cooler is screwed in, then it's faulty.

from what you're describing - it seems it's normal
 
tamzzy said:
no it's normal for it to be loose if the cooler is not screwed in.
if it's loose when the cooler is screwed in, then it's faulty.

from what you're describing - it seems it's normal
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Strange - that really doesn't seem conducive to easy installation - it basically means you have to hold it in place in order to get purchase on the cooler screws!?!?! :confused:
 
tamzzy said:
well, you're supposed to lie the board flat on a desk to install the cooler. before you install the board into the case
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Yeah, I did that with the initial install but neglected to do it when I was re-applying the thermal paste simply because otherwise it would have meant unplugging everything and re-connecting again (and yes, I know I'm a lazy so-and-so!) My problem is that I don't think before doing things that I've done before, even if its been years since I've done them!

Thanks again for all your help tamzzy!
 
StevieP, what do you reckon was the issue causing the initial high temperatures? Was the cooler seated properly? Or was it just dodgy thermal paste?
 
masto said:
StevieP, what do you reckon was the issue causing the initial high temperatures? Was the cooler seated properly? Or was it just dodgy thermal paste?
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To be honest I'm not entirely sure - everything was going fine (with the exception of some dodgy RAM) and it was only after a couple of crash to desktops in The Division that I noticed that the temperature had reached 95°C (although I don't know if that was a constant at that level or a "spike"!)

The cooler appeared to be seated OK and the paste was the paste that was pre-applied to the cooler - the only thing I wondered was whether there was a thin "film" over the paste itself and this was interfering with the process - @DarkHorizon472 suggested this could be the case, although I didn't notice it (obviously!) during install - but when I did take the cooler off yesterday, the underside was a bit "blackened" so I'm wondering whether there was something on there and it simply melted away!!!

No crashes or blue screens since I re-applied the paste and the temps are down but only time will tell I guess!
 
StevieP said:
- but when I did take the cooler off yesterday, the underside was a bit "blackened" so I'm wondering whether there was something on there and it simply melted away!!!
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:D

Sounds as if you've found the remains of the issue.
It can happen to any of us. I hope you have a hassle-free experience going forward! :cool:
 
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