Poll: Which Next Gen Console will you buy? - New Version

What will you buy?

  • I will buy both consoles

    Votes: 125 12.1%
  • I will buy an Xbox One only

    Votes: 138 13.3%
  • I will buy a PS4 only

    Votes: 565 54.5%
  • I will buy neither console

    Votes: 88 8.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 120 11.6%

  • Total voters
    1,036
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This is why I don't fully agree with it, as I don't think it's been used well enough as it stands. However, looking forward (not backwards :p), with every Xbox One owner having a Kinect, that is vastly superior to the original, is it beyond reason to think that there could be some really good innovations using it? I don't think it is.

Well I mean someone gave huge sale numbers for the original kinect so I mean it seems like the market was already there, although how many of those were bought then shelved or came bundled who knows
 
This is why I don't fully agree with it, as I don't think it's been used well enough as it stands. However, looking forward (not backwards :p), with every Xbox One owner having a Kinect, that is vastly superior to the original, is it beyond reason to think that there could be some really good innovations using it? I don't think it is.

Wii Motion controls came with every Wii. That didn't stop lots of people hating it :p.
 
I don't really want Kinect, but I do want to play Forza 5 etc which for me outweighs any need to whine about it being bundled, it is what it is.
 
This is why I don't fully agree with it, as I don't think it's been used well enough as it stands. However, looking forward (not backwards :p), with every Xbox One owner having a Kinect, that is vastly superior to the original, is it beyond reason to think that there could be some really good innovations using it? I don't think it is.

I never use my Kinect, my wife and daughter will though :p
 
Then why the concession to be able to switch it off? If, for example, Germany had such an issue, then just be as transparent as Blackberry has been forced to be in certain countries. I dont particularly agree with that, but if you really believe that its that essential to where MS need XO to go, then being able to turn it off wouldnt have been an option or would have been the last resort.

Honestly just like the whole DRM issue, if it had been that essential/integral then MS wouldnt have caved in so quickly. I see Kinect being one and the same thing...

ps3ud0 :cool:
Obviously I'm not privy to MS's internal thinking on this, but I think they're allowing you to turn it off because they know how many people will see it as an invasion of privacy if you can't turn it off. We've already seen plenty of people in here worrying that Kinect is going to spying on them fapping.

That's just my educated guess anyway, that it comes down to each user having control over how much (or little) information Kinect can see.
 
Well I mean someone gave huge sale numbers for the original kinect so I mean it seems like the market was already there, although how many of those were bought then shelved or came bundled who knows
The sales figures, which were something like 22 million units I think, only referred to how many were sold to the actual retailers. I don't think there are any concrete figures to how many were sold beyond that, or indeed how many were sold back to the users afterwards.
 
Still PS4.

I will only play games on the console I buy. I have no need of the TV features, Skype integration, motion controls and whatnot. The PS4 is £80 cheaper therefore it gets bought. I'll miss not being able to play stuff like Dead Rising 3 which looked great, but I don't miss it enough to pay extra £80 and miss out of stuff like Killzone. If the Xbox was £349 it would have been extremely hard to pick between them.
 
Obviously I'm not privy to MS's internal thinking on this, but I think they're allowing you to turn it off because they know how many people will see it as an invasion of privacy if you can't turn it off. We've already seen plenty of people in here worrying that Kinect is going to spying on them fapping.

That's just my educated guess anyway, that it comes down to each user having control over how much (or little) information Kinect can see.
Yet as many have argued on the flip side of the coin the same isnt said for other communication devices. Its pretty obvious that where they see it as integral, pretty much the majority sees it as anything of the sort and any reasoning to avoid using and paying for it is more than above board to grasp at.

Im sure it wouldnt have been that hard to allay those fears, so again pandering just suggests MS just dont think its as integral as they lead others to believe it is...

If MS really had this 'burning bush' vision, do you really think they dont have the actual ability to communicate it, or is it moreso that it was all some hyperbole to ensure they got DRM and Kinect through? Im undecided, but that indecision speaks volumes to me...
After playing The Last of US surely Naughty Dog exclusives are a MASSIVE plus for playstation?
Wait for Beyond Two Souls - seen nothing yet ;)

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If MS really had this vision, do you really think they had the real inability to communicate it, or is it moreso that it was all some hyperbole to ensure they got DRM and Kinect through. Im undecided, but that indecision speaks volumes to me...

Considering how bad Microsoft's communication was regarding everything else, I would put nothing beyond their PR departments (lack of) ability.
 
Considering how bad Microsoft's communication was regarding everything else, I would put nothing beyond their PR departments (lack of) ability.
That doesnt really answer my point, was that lack of ability because they truly are amateurs even considering their past achievements, or more they didnt know how to spin their 'vision'?

I think its a worthwhile question as I dont think MS, as a company, are actually that stupid and if their vision was as astouding as people here keep mentioning then surely it was an easy thing to speak about? We would be dumb not to understand and grasp it surely?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
That doesnt really answer my point, was that lack of ability because they truly are amateurs even considering their past achievements, or more they didnt know how to spin their 'vision'?

I think its a worthwhile question as I dont think MS, as a company, are actually that stupid and if their vision was as astouding as people here keep mentioning then surely it was an easy thing to speak about? We would be dumb not to understand and grasp it surely?

I wish I knew the answer. The fact that MS have been forced to change their policies now means we may never find out where they intended to take us. I don't understand why they couldn't share their own long-term goals with us though, it might have made some of their policies more appealing to some if they could see where they were heading.
 
Surely it can't be worse than Twitch. I watch Twitch a lot and just lately it's like a bag of bolts. Even video at 360p is stuttering. And no it's not my connection. :p So when the Xbox massif get on board the site is going to be like treacle.

Yeah twitch has been gash recently but supposedly they are fixing it now.
 
I wish I knew the answer. The fact that MS have been forced to change their policies now means we may never find out where they intended to take us. I don't understand why they couldn't share their own long-term goals with us though, it might have made some of their policies more appealing to some if they could see where they were heading.
Agreed, though Im more of a pessimist in that I dont think their future was that customer-centric. Hell I dont even think Kinect is there for gaming. My reasoning why they were never that forthcoming where they wanted to go.

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