Who are you voting for on Thursday?

Had a long read through the thread and it saddens me that a fair few seem to be voting BNP. Im all for freedom of speech, vote for whoever you want, but if you wanna protest vote, why not go Green or UKIP? Yeah, things like imigration need to be re-addressed, but no matter how people dress it up, the party is a collection of racist knuckle draggers in suits playing politics.

I really can't see why anyone would vote for them except if he / she is either
a) Backwards views on society and the world we live in
b) Too young to vote and just saying 'BNP' on the forums to fuel the debate, bad trolls :)
c) Racist
 
Definition of Racismnoun 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.

Ive done no such thing to any extent more than anyone else as ive said, if you are all honest each and everyone of you will admit you have made assumptions simply based on the colour of ones skin, derogatory or otherwise. You cant help it its down to the principal that ideas are self replicating "That chinese guy is great at maths" is a perfect example of what I mean, someone reads it or hears it and a copy is then placed in that persons mind wether you choose to believe it or not is irrelevant its there, and at some point will be at the forefront of your mind in certain situations.

In my opinion the BNP's constitution and its policies are not racist, this of course is open to pure interpretation and I would never want to force my beliefs on anyone who did not agree.

My main reason for supporting the BNP, yes I did vote for them today aswell as a large cross section of family members, friends and aquaintences, is based on the fact that they wish to withdraw from the European Union and to put a stop to unlimited mass imigration. Im not against immigrants, im just against the policies that allow it to go unchecked, im against the welfare system gone mad, where scroungers of any description abuse it... I could go on with these points but ive made my case.

The fact is in surveys done, ive misplaced to link, the general public where asked what they thought of a list of policies but where not told which party's doctrine it was, support was massive... I believe 86% in favour. When told that they belonged to the BNP support dropped substantially.

I voted for the BNP purely based on those policies which in my opinion make sense, as for the financial incentive to encourage immigrants, legal or otherwise, to return to their ancestral homes and the support packages that would be given to the receiving nations is a solid policy that would benefit many and with the massive amounts of funds saved by leaving the European union, £40,000,000.00 a day is it?, would hardly be noticed. Money im sure we would all agree is better in the pockets of those who really need it than in the already bursting personal coffers of the eurocrats, politicians in general and ofcourse big business.
 
Had a long read through the thread and it saddens me that a fair few seem to be voting BNP. Im all for freedom of speech, vote for whoever you want, but if you wanna protest vote, why not go Green or UKIP? Yeah, things like imigration need to be re-addressed, but no matter how people dress it up, the party is a collection of racist knuckle draggers in suits playing politics.

I really can't see why anyone would vote for them except if he / she is either
a) Backwards views on society and the world we live in
b) Too young to vote and just saying 'BNP' on the forums to fuel the debate, bad trolls :)
c) Racist

Or they've had different upbringings and live in different environments than others and are just fed up with everything that goes on around them? :)

I've never voted, I was thinking of doing it this year, but I've had literally no fliers or any kind of information at all....well tell a lie I had one Conservative thing...

The papers are just full of that Suzan Boyle thing and the bleedin MP scam's that have been going on :p
 
Slightly on a tangent, for a moment... "belief that there are characteristsics, abilities or qualities specific to each race...". Sorry, but is that really racism? Really? For example, I'm the first to admit that black people make white men look sick when it comes to having good rhythm and dancing ability. They seem to have a greater proportion of decent athletes compared to us, too. I also think Asian and white people have their strengths and weaknesses too. Maybe some are cultural rather than intrinsically biological, but they're persistent to that race's culture nonetheless.

On noes I'm a racist... or is that racialist? :rolleyes:
 
Slightly on a tangent, for a moment... "belief that there are characteristsics, abilities or qualities specific to each race...". Sorry, but is that really racism? Really? For example, I'm the first to admit that black people make white men look sick when it comes to having good rhythm and dancing ability. They seem to have a greater proportion of decent athletes compared to us, too. I also think Asian and white people have their strengths and weaknesses too. Maybe some are cultural rather than intrinsically biological, but they're persistent to that race's culture nonetheless.

On noes I'm a racist... or is that racialist? :rolleyes:

Hate to say it but by that definition your a racist, and thats the Oxford definition of the word. Dont feel to bad though it means we all are! :eek:
 
Slightly on a tangent, for a moment... "belief that there are characteristsics, abilities or qualities specific to each race...". Sorry, but is that really racism? Really? For example, I'm the first to admit that black people make white men look sick when it comes to having good rhythm and dancing ability. They seem to have a greater proportion of decent athletes compared to us, too. I also think Asian and white people have their strengths and weaknesses too. Maybe some are cultural rather than intrinsically biological, but they're persistent to that race's culture nonetheless.

On noes I'm a racist... or is that racialist? :rolleyes:

Hate to get into the discussion, but surely it is only deemed Racist once it becomes negative.
 
Hate to get into the discussion, but surely it is only deemed Racist once it becomes negative.

A misconception im afraid, any belief or assumption based on the colour of ones skin etc both positive and negative is racism. Racism is not a simple issue im afraid, so many people have different beliefs as to what the word actually means as such the overwhelming majority toss it about like a rock in the most innapropriate of ways...
 
Basically, if we take the above at face value, racism isn't bad at all, actually. Racial hatred is, for most, a different matter. Otherwise "only deemed racist once it becomes negative" means you can only profess the better parts of other races but never your own. Like reverse discrimination.

In other words, a white guy can say black people can dance well on the whole - but if a black guy said it it'd be racist, because he's black?! Damn, no wonder people hate this PC nonsense lol

Oh wait, I forgot - black people can't be racist. They're not white! :p :D :o
 
A misconception im afraid, any belief or assumption based on the colour of ones skin etc both positive and negative is racism. Racism is not a simple issue im afraid, so many people have different beliefs as to what the word actually means as such the overwhelming majority toss it about like a rock in the most innapropriate of ways...

So you tell me why you don't want people who aren't white and British out of the country without stereotyping?
 
So you tell me why you don't want people who aren't white and British out of the country without stereotyping?

Immigration if done correctly is not a bad thing, sadly in this country it is not done properly, the people I would like to see removed from the country are those that have no legal right to be here, for example, hid in shipping container or lied on there applications for entry. I want to see all scroungers who abuse our health and civil services removed and that as you know has nothing to do with religious beliefs, ethnic background. But why should we pay extortionate amounts of tax for anyone to claim benefits who has no intention of working, those genuinley in a bind and/ or have paid into it are welcome to it.
 
Immigration if done correctly is not a bad thing, sadly in this country it is not done properly, the people I would like to see removed from the country are those that have no legal right to be here, for example, hid in shipping container or lied on there applications for entry. I want to see all scroungers who abuse our health and civil services removed and that as you know has nothing to do with religious beliefs, ethnic background. But why should we pay extortionate amounts of tax for anyone to claim benefits who has no intention of working, those genuinley in a bind and/ or have paid into it are welcome to it.

Why did you vote for the BNP then instead of UKIP? Why should we pay extortionate amounts of tax to accomodate the white people who have no intention of working? Why do only foreigners scrounge? Have you seriously thought any of this through?

The problems in this country aren't exclusively to do with people who come from other countries, there are good and bad in every single country and race in the world, including ours.
 
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Why did you vote for the BNP then instead of UKIP? Why should we pay extortionate amounts of tax to accomodate the white people who have no intention of working? Why do only foreigners scrounge? Have you seriously thought any of this through?

Have you? I said scroungers of any description, one could then make a reasonable assumption that it included our indiginous scroungers... UKIP are one of the worst for expenses claims, their top guy is pro-european and claimed over 2 million over six years! Get my vote, I think not!
 
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