Who else hates this guy (Gregg Wallace)?

[physichull]

I think it's about time the BBC becomes a testing ground for making it's execs liable for not acting earlier.

Thing is, its not really the BBC that is responsible in this case, its the production company for Masterchef and whatever other shows that are affected.

This aspect was well explained on the The Rest Is Entertainment podcast by Richard Osman, it is extremely unlikely that anyone at the BBC would have been made aware of these issues as the production company in all likeliness kept it quiet and potentially glossed over any complaints or put up a good front to the BBC bosses when needed in order to not affect the future of their show. The BBC really have very little to do with the actual production of Masterchef.

Maybe there should be more accountability within the BBC, but in my opinion this story is entirely the wrong thread to pull. Should there have been more accountability within the production company in question? Absolutely.

 

[Minusorange]

Gregg Wallace's ghostwriter says MasterChef host sexually harassed her

The MasterChef host has denied any sexual misconduct with Shannon Kyle, who worked on his 2012 memoir.

www.bbc.co.uk

Took the money and wrote the book though eh. lol, what a joke. If a boss tries touching my ex, he would have a knee in the dick to think about his actions.

Kyle said she had chosen to speak out to highlight what she described as Wallace’s “predatory” behaviour.

Kyle claimed Wallace shared explicit details of his own sex life when working on the book between May and August 2012.

Only took you 12 years to do the right thing

 

[sidimmu]

How do we know this ghost writer's accusations are even true though? It's just her word against his.
Wouldn't be the 1st time someone has made up accusations.

Why didn't we hear about this years ago ?

Only took you 12 years to do the right thing

Its easier to report and be believed upon if there is more people coming forward.
If a pure 1-1, their career could be at risk.

 

[Minusorange]

their career could be at risk.

That's not really an excuse

Career is at risk of what ? Not working with anymore predators ?

 

[sidimmu]

Career is at risk of what ? Not working with anymore predators ?

You are forgetting how powerful some of these disgusting people may be, hence how Weinstein and co got away for it for so long.
Stating this is not an excuse is rather naïve.

 

[Minusorange]

You are forgetting how powerful some of these disgusting people may be, hence how Weinstein and co got away for it for so long.

Doesn't that keep the trope going that you can't report on these people because they're too powerful, that kind of attitude only helps the abusers

 

[sidimmu]

Doesn't that keep the trope going that you can't report on these people because they're too powerful, that kind of attitude only helps the abusers

Its easier to report and be believed upon if there is more people coming forward.
If a pure 1-1, their career could be at risk.

Think we are going to end up in a loop.
Either way 1 woman against 1 man with a form of celebrity status/high wealth is not going to end well for the woman.
This is why it is better for it to come out in numbers, but yes you need 1 brave woman to stand up initially for the others.

 

[GGizmo]

Why isn't there any criminal investigations going on?

Or even a civil case?

Because at the moment people are saying things that haven't been proven and he can't defend himself.

If you are a socially awkward person and male, be careful out there.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Doesn't that keep the trope going that you can't report on these people because they're too powerful, that kind of attitude only helps the abusers

Why do you think such abusers are able to get away with it for so long?
Even in similar non-celebrity crimes, such as rape and child abuse, the victims were almost always told (or made to feel like) they couldn't tell anyone or seek help, else there'd be serious repercussions. It's part of the very mechanism of abuse itself, and why assistance entities are SO keen to show that victims are safe/allowed to ask for help.

The saying no smoke without fire springs to mind, and there's a helluva lot of smoke right now!

Part of the problem there is that it's also very hard to see through the smoke and find the actual fire...

I'm pretty certain some of the things GW is accused of is real and relatively serious. I also think some of it will just be people jumping aboard the bandwagon being pulled by a cash cow.

Damn, surprisingly... I agree with ttaskmaster!

It happens more often than you realise...

 

[sidimmu]

If you are a socially awkward person and male, be careful out there.

That describes me and I have never had any problems, why? Because its not hard to be respectful and not a POS.

 

[Tuppy_Glossop]

Sky News running with it being a wider issue at Masterchef , here

 

[GGizmo]

That describes me and I have never had any problems, why? Because its not hard to be respectful and not a POS.

There are people like that, and they don't realise it. They are like that around guys too.

They don't pick up on social etiquette. All they see is people's negative reactions, and even then most of the time they brush it off as someone elses problem.

I don't understand why these people didn't call him out at the time. He's not their boss. In many examples there are multiple people witnessing it. Also I would have imagined the celebs on the show might have said something.

 

[aVdub]

If my Nan had wheels.

Gino D'Acampo 'accused of inappropriate behaviour towards ITV colleague'

An unnamed women has made accusations against him.

metro.co.uk

 

[Hagar]

Why isn't there any criminal investigations going on?

Or even a civil case?

Because at the moment people are saying things that haven't been proven and he can't defend himself.

Well he can, he can sue.

 

[tangey]

Only took you 12 years to do the right thing

Its easier to report and be believed upon if there is more people coming forward.
If a pure 1-1, their career could be at risk.

Kyle claimed Wallace shared explicit details of his own sex life when working on the book between May and August 2012.

His wife at the time should recognise some unique details

 

[Richie]

Why isn't there any criminal investigations going on?

Or even a civil case?

Because at the moment people are saying things that haven't been proven and he can't defend himself.

If you are a socially awkward person and male, be careful out there.

I find your difference in opinion relating to allegations quite weird... This is you from "The Diddler" thread relating to JayZ

It wouldn't surprise me this Jay-Z allegation. Because it's already clear people from outside the industry are involved in the parties he hosted.

Why so quick to doubt the Wallace accusations yet seem ok to believe the accusation against Jay-Z?

 

[dlockers]

I find your difference in opinion relating to allegations quite weird... This is you from "The Diddler" thread relating to JayZ



Why so quick to doubt the Wallace accusations yet seem ok to believe the accusation against Jay-Z?

It is pretty obvious to me

 

[dowie]

I find your difference in opinion relating to allegations quite weird... This is you from "The Diddler" thread relating to JayZ

Why so quick to doubt the Wallace accusations yet seem ok to believe the accusation against Jay-Z?

Kinda obviously big differences - he's not even said he doesn't believe them but he's highlighting the seriousness of them or lack thereof.

On one hand you've got allegations like this guy said crude/crass things on set, shared details of his sex life with his ghostwriter etc.

On the other hand you've got allegaitons of raping a 13 year old or allegedly fathering a child with another (then) underage girl and trying to dodge the paternity case ever since etc.

Mostly HR issuess vs serious criminal issues.

It's like comparing someone having a heated row-shoving incident at the company xmas party with someone who has a bunch of alleged GBH incidents.

 

[Fr0dders]

How do we know this ghost writer's accusations are even true though? It's just her word against his.
Wouldn't be the 1st time someone has made up accusations.

Why didn't we hear about this years ago ?

Is it any wonder when this is peoples reactions ?

Combine that with the evidence that BBC management knew about this and swept it all under the rug with a "he was a very naughty boy so we told him off" message it's no surprise it's taken this long for it all to come out once everybody plucked up the courage to go public.

Nestle memo reveals BBC knew about 'unacceptable' behaviour from Gregg Wallace on factory show last year

The latest claims about Gregg Wallace come as the BBC says MasterChef's celebrity Christmas specials are being pulled from schedules.

news.sky.com

 

[Nigel Kingdon]

The BBC did no such thing. The HR of the Production Company might have, and as a matter of course, would also have asked the complainants if they were happy with the outcome.