Who owns a Mondeo ST220 / ST TDCI?

Imy · 14 Aug 2013 at 12:36

If you want to hear the JP Howard, you're welcome to have a listen to mine. Although with windows up there's not a lot to hear.

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 08:00

Thanks Imy. I'll probably be hearing it soon enough....

I place the blame entirely on Rybo for what I'm doing today.

Rybo89 · 15 Aug 2013 at 08:42

Skeeter · 15 Aug 2013 at 08:46

I know that the suggestion of buying a Mk3 with a diesel engine is usually met with a unanimous "don't do it!", but if I find one that has had the DMF and Clutch recently replaced, is there anything to really worry about?

And are there any significant differences between the ST 2.2 TDCI and the 2.0l in the non ST Mk3's?

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 09:16

Skeeter said:
I know that the suggestion of buying a Mk3 with a diesel engine is usually met with a unanimous "don't do it!", but if I find one that has had the DMF and Clutch recently replaced, is there anything to really worry about?

Injectors, everything else diesely, the noise.

Skeeter said:
And are there any significant differences between the ST 2.2 TDCI and the 2.0l in the non ST Mk3's?

25bhp

Skeeter · 15 Aug 2013 at 12:22

Howard said:
Injectors, everything else diesely, the noise.

Lol.

So I should can my Mk3 diesel Mondeo ideas right now then?

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 12:30

Depends what you need from the car. I'm sure they're not that bad but the usual diesel caveats apply.

Skeeter · 15 Aug 2013 at 12:38

I need a cheap well equipped comfortable car for under £3k. I'm looking at Petrol Ghia X's, but Diesels outnumber Petrols by a significant amount so I started wondering if they were actually the massive money pit people say they are.

DogsBody · 15 Aug 2013 at 14:26

try and find one which has had DMF/injectors/turbo replaced in the last 5000 miles then you should be good to go

How many miles per annum btw ?

Skeeter · 15 Aug 2013 at 14:47

Haha.

My mileage is very unpredictable. At the moment I am doing around 500 miles a week, but this project ends in September and I could end up doing zero miles for the next 6 months.

An ST TDCI would be great, but I don't fancy a £1000 bill from what is basically just a work tool.

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:18

It seems totally unnecessary to buy a diesel for this purpose. Buy an ST220

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:36

I've been thinking about the Focus ST brake upgrade situation again...

You can buy a pair of brand new front Pagid Focus ST calipers from EuroCarParts for a shade under £200.. Bit less than the £300 than some people want!! How much do the carriers tend to go for?

Skeeter · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:36

The above is business miles. I will be doing all my personal miles in it too, and having to pay for 20mpg out of my own pocket is not something I fancy.

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:39

500 miles a week and the business is paying? Great, even better! Each time I drive for work I profit quite nicely with the 45p per mile

If I was in your situation I'd get a nice 2.0 petrol Ghia X or something.

tummelv · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:41

Yeah, just get a 2.0 petrol. You'll manage 40mpg on a run and around 30 in town. Good enough surely if you're paying?

Imy · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:47

Howard said:
I've been thinking about the Focus ST brake upgrade situation again...

You can buy a pair of brand new front Pagid Focus ST calipers from EuroCarParts for a shade under £200.. Bit less than the £300 than some people want!! How much do the carriers tend to go for?

They're not cheap.

I made this table a while back so the prices are likely out of date. It's based on new parts from Ford:

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Part #     Description                                   (exc. VAT)  Qty  Subtotal
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1477828    OEM Focus ST225 front brake caliper (RH)         £177.64   1    £177.64
1477830    OEM Focus ST225 front brake caliper (LH)         £177.64   1    £177.64
1477827    OEM Focus ST225 front brake caliper carrier       £88.66   2    £177.32
F1447853   OEM Focus ST225 front brake caliper fixing bolt    £1.36   4      £5.44
1461506    OEM Focus ST225 front brake caliper spring        £14.67   2     £29.34
KITDISC10  OEM Focus ST225 front brake discs (both)          £78.66   1     £78.66
DP31574C   EBC Redstuff front brake pads for Focus ST225     £90.20   1     £90.20
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                  P&P (fordpartsuk.com)      £5.50
                                                               Subtotal    £856.31
                                                                    VAT    £171.26
                                                                  Total  £1,027.57

The AP kit doesn't cost much more than that I think.

Rybo89 · 15 Aug 2013 at 15:58

Comical Ford pricing.

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 16:01

lol

That's one AP racing caliper!

Rybo89 · 15 Aug 2013 at 16:08

Howard, you done the deed yet?

Howard · 15 Aug 2013 at 16:12

What deed sir?

Oh

Yeah. Up to 10 days to wait

Ordered some new centre caps too. I must be mad.