Who with a 8800 series is getting R600?

Azza · 29 Jan 2007 at 23:48

Shocky-FM said:
Nobodies doing anything of the sort.. The problem here is his magical upgrade plan where all his upgrades only cost £75... lol

Thats not hard for a graphics card upgrade.

I have gone from a AMD X2 system to Core 2 Duo, changed my mobo twice and bought 3 different graphics card and a new case. And by selling at the right time and for the right price i have only lost ~£220. Not that much really.

easyrider · 29 Jan 2007 at 23:49

Shocky-FM said:
Nobodies doing anything of the sort.. The problem here is his magical upgrade plan where all his upgrades only cost £75... lol

Again quote me where I say the upgrade only costs 75?

Shocky-FM · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:03

LMAO@£50 upgrade.

easyrider said:
Again quote me where I say the upgrade only costs 75?

but ill more likely get £375 for the BFG so it will be a loss of 75 quid ,this is nothing....

Well If i can sell the 8800 GTX for 350 and get R600 for 50 more then I'm in

Been looking on auction sites and BFG's are going for around £375 now.Boxed with receipt and unused bits.

losing £75 when I have had the card 3 months is good going

easyrider · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:17

I stated a loss of £75 in your quotes,

I wanted you to quote me where I said it would only cost 75 to upgrade.You can't can you?

"If it cost's 75" is completely different to "it will cost 75"

Again you have failed in your quest to make any sense in your post's

You know what, i've been doing exactly the same for years, buy and then sell old hardware.. It does help a little but nowhere near the extent you guys make it out.

Look if you wait to long then yes,But not when the gears still hot!

What have you been doing?
Selling your old socket A stuff in MM 2 yrs after it stops being made,hoping it help towards the cost of a new rig?

ROTFL

You have to do it with uptodate hardware or there is just no point.

SHEESH I cant believe you still don't get it!

Richdog · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:18

megatron said:
If u knew the meaning of hard work u wouldnt be frizzling away your money.

That's rubbish... I work hard and believe that you should be able to spend your money on whatever makes you happy, no matter what the cost as long as it's manageable. Some people go out and waste hundreds on fags and alcohol... some people buy lots of clothes... others buy PC parts.

People work hard so that they CAN frizzle some of it away because then they can afford to live a little. Who wants to work hard, earn a decent wage, and then scrimp and save without indulging themselves on what they enjoy? Answer: no-one normal.

A loss of £100 every 4 months really is nothing... £25 a week. That's a single night a week at the pub, less if you're with a group of mates and buying rounds. If you earn over £1000 a month after tax and don't have many outgoings then there's far worse things to do with your money that give you a lot less pleasure.

easyrider · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:22

Richdog said:
That's rubbish... I work hard and believe that you should be able to spend your money on whatever makes you happy, no matter what the cost as long as it's manageable. Some people go out and waste hundreds on fags and alcohol... some people buy lots of clothes... others buy PC parts.

People work hard so that they CAN frizzle some of it away because then they can afford to live a little. Who wants to work hard, earn a decent wage, and then scrimp and save without indulging themselves on what they enjoy? Answer: no-one normal.

A loss of £100 every 4 months really is nothing... £25 a week. That's a single night a week at the pub, less if you're with a group of mates and buying rounds. If you earn over £1000 a month after tax and don't have many outgoings then there's far worse things to do with your money that give you a lot less pleasure.

Have to agree with richdog.
Nail on the Head there mate

Nelly · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:24

Been playing Vanguard, been aquiring better avg framerates with my Ati 1900XTX than with an 8800GTX :confused:

crappy Nvidia drivers I guess - considering when you load the game up it says! "Nvidia the way its meant to be played" . . . yeah right lol.

w3bbo · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:25

lol £75 is a nice round figure you gotta admit

It's Easy's choice so give the guy a break, its his money afterall. No-one has any right to dictate to anyone else how to spend there money(except the UK government perhaps?).

Justifying an upgrade these days is becomming a hard task when there is little to justify it, show me a game at any res you choose that an 8800gtx 'struggles' with that an r600 will cope easily with. If history is anything to go by then there may be a slight increase in fps but nothing groundbreaking, especially nothing noticable apart from benchmarks if you are making the switch from a G80 to an R600. When my gtx starts to struggle then upgrade time it will be, not before. :cool:

Richdog · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:32

w3bbo said:
Justifying an upgrade these days is becomming a hard task when there is little to justify it, show me a game at any res you choose that an 8800gtx 'struggles' with that an r600 will cope easily with. If history is anything to go by then there may be a slight increase in fps but nothing groundbreaking, especially nothing noticable apart from benchmarks if you are making the switch from a G80 to an R600. When my gtx starts to struggle then upgrade time it will be, not before.

Agreed, in real-terms there is no real gain from upgrading so frequently. However, if we all upgraded when we needed to then it would no longer be a hobby. For many, PC uupgrading is a labour of love... no different to buying a 13k car and then spending thousands on it trying to make it the meanest thing on the road. The beauty of PC's as a hobby is that there IS always something new to spend your money on... and for people who like that kind of thing then it's no different to any other long-term hobby. Frequent upgrades maintain interest and keep it fresh for many people... they get immense enjoyment and satisfaction out of it... and in a world where other kids/adults go around vandalising things and beating people up because they're "bored" you can't really hold that against them. It's not the cheapest hobby, but it's certainly better and more fun than many I can name.

squiffy · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:38

But a hobby can become an obession too. There's a point where you just stop.

Van Diemen · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:44

easyrider said:
I usually lose around 100 in between gens

that works out to around 25 quid a month to play with the latest tech..

Cheaper than sky +

nothing

My thoughts exactly, even if it cost a touch more, it would be worth it for more performance.
He can sell now & use an old card he has, for now,
wait for the R600. If its any good, he buys one.
If not he gets a G80 for about same price he sold his one for

@Shocky-FM, Let the man be. Its his money. I bet you'd love to able to trade your E6600 for a QX & get the new ATI card when its out. All of us here would love to be able to do that.

Richdog · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:47

squiffy said:
But a hobby can become an obession too. There's a point where you just stop.

So who in your opinion here is obsessed, and how do you define this obsession?

Do you call the model train hobbyist who collects rare and expensive model trains on a regular basis obsessed? Do you call the serious ameteur photographer who spends thousands on camera, kit and lenses obssessed? The car nut who spends thousands continually tinkering with their car? They're all the same in principle.

I think you're being a tad melodramatic and just throwing the term "obsessed" around like we should all of a sudden view people who upgrade in some negative light. When YOU start to get obsessed then worry... but let others worry about themselves, because there's every chance the person you consider "obsessed" is actually just indulging themselves in their passion. And as long as they're happy and not suffering in any way then who are you to criticise or pass judgement.

squiffy · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:53

I know very well what is obsessed it, my brother has a obsession with a hobby. I won't go into details but he needs to see a shrink.

lay-z-boy · 30 Jan 2007 at 00:58

Can't beat the Graphics Cards section banter.

Its like a war where the shields don't get damaged and there is an endless supply of ammunition, till the whole are gets nuked

w3bbo · 30 Jan 2007 at 01:00

lay-z-boy said:
Can't beat the Graphics Cards section banter.

Its like a war where the shields don't get damaged and there is an endless supply of ammunition, till the whole are gets nuked

PMSL...thats a great summarisation!

titaniumx3 · 30 Jan 2007 at 01:07

Man people are just jealous because easyrider has a QX6700. Remember the worst thing is not having a big e-penis, but looking at one!

shrek2 · 30 Jan 2007 at 01:30

Easyrider do yourself a favour and ignore these people. If upgrading your computer with every new component is your hobby so be it. I am sure if they had the money themselves they wouldnt be using inferior X1900s.

w3bbo · 30 Jan 2007 at 01:37

Its not always about money, its also about common sense, needs and desires. Many here could afford a GTX/r600 but choose not to buy one

.

Alexrose1uk · 30 Jan 2007 at 02:33

Personally I prefer bang for buck buying, HOWEVER I can see where people like easyrider come from, and I dont think its wrong. Theres an innate part of the human psyche that wants to have one up on everyone else and be/have the best, and its often seen as a male trait, its just another outlet for the human nature of competetiveness.
People indulge it with cars, houses, clothes, nights out, pc parts, whatever they wish, however my take on it isnt to demand/expect them to stop it if they can comfortably afford it -indeed if they CAN comfortably afford it, then more power to them.
If it makes them feel better, have more fun, and gives them something new (everyone loves a new toy), and they've earned the right/cash to have it, without sacrificing in needed areas, thats fine.

Im not a rich person, being a student, and I prefer bang for buck buying myself, but I dont think any one of us on a hardware enthusiast forum cant say we were tempted by something at some time or another, we're hardware ENTHUSIASTS for god's sake.
Its a simple case that some people have the money available to indulge themselves on the temptations, and decide they want to so they do, regardless of where that temptation may lie.

As its just expression of a standard human trait, I dont see the issue, as long as its not causing them harm, or harm to anyone else.

If I had the money, and there was a nice little performance boost, then yes I'd be tempted, solely from the fact that as a newer card, the X2800xtx (or whatever its called) is likely to be worth something longer than my older card, so the card will either last me longer, be usable at higher resolutions and settings for longer, or will be worth more when I come to trade it in.

Kmodo · 30 Jan 2007 at 04:00

megatron said:
You get this scenario a lot. One person makes a statement true or untrue then someone who disagrees about the whole ethos will try to focus on a little inaccuracy as they see it. This is so that they do not have to directly argue on the point the first person was making.

The second person is laying down the notion that everything that the first person is saying is wrong because he can find some small irrelevant point which is questionable.

In effect it leads the argument off-topic and thus avoids the second person having to ever justify himself and respond directly to what the first person says. Thus side-stepping the chance of ever being proved wrong.

The bigger the ego the more aggressive is the diversionary tactic.

Those 'men of honour' seem to do just that... a lot...on speakers corner and general discussion

I see them just totally dismiss 5 valid points and focus on one little thing that is questionable :confused: