I know.. rather pleased with that timing.... Rooting for GR63 for the Merc seat
Whos getting BOTTAS' seat next year ?
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I know.. rather pleased with that timing.... Rooting for GR63 for the Merc seat
Soldato
WCC is the only one that matters. Teams get nothing for winning the WDC, it's a mere side-show.
Directly yes, but my point is the indirect benefits based on WDC.
Based off some random article I found Merc got $66m for winning the WCC in 2019 (plus other amounts not dependent on finishing position for a total of $177m), Ferrari in 2nd got $56m, RB in 3rd got $46m, last place Williams got $15m.
Realistically if a team wins the WDC they'd have to do a shockingly bad job to get below 3rd in the WCC, even below 2nd really given the points structure. So realistically we're talking $20m, sounds a lot but in a team that pre-cap had a budget well over $300m it's not the biggest income stream by a long way.
Sponsors will pay more to be on the car and driver winning the race, they couldn't care about WCC. Merc gets more brand marketing off WDC results which the public does care about than WCC that the public ignores.
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I think your source might be off... Ferrari actually got MORE than Mercedes did in 2019, despite coming runner up in 2018 due to their long standing team bonus.
In championship finishing order for the 2018 season:
- Mercedes $177M
- Ferrari $205M
- Red Bull $152
That source lists the same as I was using, but as mentioned I was isolating the amount that is based on finishing position.
There's '3' components of the total amount:
1) 'Column 1' an identical amount for all 10 teams, in that list $35 million.
2) 'Column 2' is the amount dependant on the previous years WCC, this is the bit I was focussing on with $66m for Merc, $56m for Ferrari etc
3) 'LST/CCB/Other' which is the bonuses for previous championshops (over the entire 70 years, hence Williams getting some here), and of course the Ferrari Being Ferrari Bonus
Essentially 1 and 3 aren't affected by whether you win WCC and/or WDC or neither, only 2 is.
Caporegime
Merc have been trailing that the decision will be made over summer and that seems fairest to both drivers, tbh. Hopefully that means we will get an announcement at Spa.
I think Russell to Merc is a sure thing, where Bottas lands seems up in the air. Alfa is the most likely, I think, followed by Williams but maybe an outside chance of a move to Red Bull? It's a shame for Bottas, had he been on the market last year I think he'd have been an absolute shoe-in for a seat in one of the major teams but this year there just any many seats that aren't already tied up.
I think Russell to Merc is a sure thing, where Bottas lands seems up in the air. Alfa is the most likely, I think, followed by Williams but maybe an outside chance of a move to Red Bull? It's a shame for Bottas, had he been on the market last year I think he'd have been an absolute shoe-in for a seat in one of the major teams but this year there just any many seats that aren't already tied up.
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I think Merc are delaying until Bottas has a firm seat elsewhere.
Why risk your number 2 driver and fill his head with dread when they can delay and announce it without worrying he’ll implode with anxiety once it’s announced?
Why risk your number 2 driver and fill his head with dread when they can delay and announce it without worrying he’ll implode with anxiety once it’s announced?
Caporegime
I'd have thought it'd be much easier for him to get a seat once he's announced as leaving.
Associate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58415541 - Wonder if this will now drive the announcement about VB and GR !
Surely just a matter of time before they make the announcement. Maybe even this weekend.
GR to merc will light up next year.
Genuinely expecting that it's not a forgone conclusion that LH will win next year. At the worst it could be alonso/Hamilton all over again. Probably not. But it's gonna be fun to watch!
I'm no fan or hater of LH. But it will be great to see how he compares and handles the possible pressure. And maybe even usurped!
Genuinely expecting that it's not a forgone conclusion that LH will win next year. At the worst it could be alonso/Hamilton all over again. Probably not. But it's gonna be fun to watch!
I'm no fan or hater of LH. But it will be great to see how he compares and handles the possible pressure. And maybe even usurped!
Soldato
I think LH will be fine as long as Russell doesn't play any games. Gamesmanship seems to upset Lewis and he starts moaning and thinking the world is against him.
GR to Merc but the sounds of it !
just waiting for confirmation
Bottas to replace Kimi at Alfa it seems
just waiting for confirmation
Bottas to replace Kimi at Alfa it seems
Associate
Yeap, based on comments made by LH in this article (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58371860) seems like the announcement is coming this weekend.
I know George is a mercedes sponsored driver so to speak , but I can't help but think lando Norris would do better once he's used to the car
Plenty of time for Lando and George once Lando leaves McLaren.
Caporegime
How do you know that McLaren will not come out with a beast of a car next season? It seems a given that Mercedes will be dominant next year.
I'm not saying they won't
Lando is doing a fantastic job , he beats Ricardo
I just feel he needs a try in a Merc, and i think he'll be just as good as what George did last year , but he's already under contract with mclaren for a couple of years I believe
Lando is doing a fantastic job , he beats Ricardo
I just feel he needs a try in a Merc, and i think he'll be just as good as what George did last year , but he's already under contract with mclaren for a couple of years I believe