why all the hate for hs2?

Nabinium · 2026-03-23T14:28:45+0000

SpeedFreak · 2026-03-23T14:40:07+0000

Exactly the type of stupidity we get in planning. Massive infrastructure project can't go live until a roof garden is in place. I apparently can't live in my new house until an electric car charger and bike shed are in place...

Nabinium · 2026-03-23T14:41:14+0000

Yup. It is remarkable how projects like this get delayed for all sorts...

PlacidCasual · 2026-03-23T14:49:11+0000

Nabinium said:
Yup. It is remarkable how projects like this get delayed for all sorts...

Tragically is it is unremarkable, it is now remarkable when something is built well, to time and budget.. The UK's climate of Lawfare and endless review of any kind of major project is a millstone round the neck of the nation.

ic1male · 2026-03-23T15:16:10+0000

As a rail infrastructure geek-wannabe, I am frothing at this latest announcement. Imagine whizzing down the line at 340kph to London from Crewe. And now it’ll be stuck at half that or some other nonsense. Bfft.

Chuk_Chuk · 2026-03-23T15:25:59+0000

Nabinium said:

How much of this is true and how much of this is a joke?

Penfold101 · 2026-03-23T15:30:03+0000

Chuk_Chuk said:
How much of this is true and how much of this is a joke?

Did you read the last one…?

SpeedFreak · 2026-03-23T15:44:07+0000

Pretty sure it is tongue in cheek with a smattering of truth!

Nabinium · 2026-03-23T15:45:57+0000

It's all true. I time travelled to June 2045 and had a look

While I was there, I also noticed the DFS sale was still bloody on :eek:

Raymond Lin · 2026-03-23T15:46:42+0000

Is it done yet?

China is on HS3000 by now.

Freakbro · 2026-03-23T16:00:48+0000

Chuk_Chuk said:
How much of this is true and how much of this is a joke?

That it says the update is June 2045 should give you a clue

Chuk_Chuk · 2026-03-23T16:01:42+0000

Penfold101 said:
Did you read the last one…?

That’s why I asked. The first 4 seemed quite plausible. Real scenarios that were stretched for the purpose of making a joke.

tom_e · 2026-03-23T16:07:33+0000

ic1male said:
As a rail infrastructure geek-wannabe, I am frothing at this latest announcement. Imagine whizzing down the line at 340kph to London from Crewe. And now it’ll be stuck at half that or some other nonsense. Bfft.

Half Speed 2

doodah · 2026-03-23T17:28:04+0000

Couldn't make this up, my childhood Horby set will be faster at this rate. Didn't they slow down local services for HS1 to make it seem faster?

Bamboozled how you design something to run faster than anything you have without having track to test it on, successful Tory governments have done such a poor job - not that this country has a great track record of big infrastructure projects.

And speaking of prices, I bought a train ticket from Leicester to London (return) for Thursday - £230!!! Prices on HS2 are going to be fleeced.com IMO.

throwaway4372 · 2026-03-23T17:30:37+0000

Should just build a load of roads and car parks and business parks and towns. Prolly cheaper.

Trifid · 2026-03-23T17:45:22+0000

throwaway4372 said:
Should just build a load of roads and car parks and business parks and towns. Prolly cheaper.

How much over £10Bn do you think Lower Thames Crossing is going to cost once completed?

kitfit1 · 2026-03-23T17:49:51+0000

throwaway4372 said:
Should just build a load of roads and car parks and business parks and towns. Prolly cheaper.

Of course it would be cheaper. Not only that it actually benefits more of the population. Let's not forget that HS2 really only benefits the wealthy and powerful to get "to and from" their latest purchase before they then asset strip it. They want to be in and out as fast as possible

Malevolence · 2026-03-23T18:23:46+0000

Should've been a freight only line from the start.