Why can't they just remove the lid and sip like from a cup ?

It's also an argument for a modern fad. It's only recently that straws became used by adults who aren't severely handicapped or very frail. Infants used sippy cups, little children used straws, big children drank like grown-ups, adults drank from a cup/mug unless they were incapable of doing so. I doubt if I've used a straw since I was ~7 years old and I won't use one again unless I become unable to drink from a cup because of illness or frail old age.

Quoted for truth and common sense (hope I do not get a ban). Straws are for kids as is getting a cup full of ice before the 'drink' is put in.
 
This thread made me chuckle.

"Plastic waste is causing serious environmental damage."
Whiners

"My straw is droopy"
British stoicism.
 
Quoted for truth and common sense (hope I do not get a ban). Straws are for kids as is getting a cup full of ice before the 'drink' is put in.

Agreed as well, i don't actually find the paper ones much of an issue, and certainly haven't had it turned to mush after a few hours. If i ever have a soft drink at a restaurant i will never use a straw.
 
Angilion said:
It's also an argument for a modern fad. It's only recently that straws became used by adults who aren't severely handicapped or very frail. Infants used sippy cups, little children used straws, big children drank like grown-ups, adults drank from a cup/mug unless they were incapable of doing so. I doubt if I've used a straw since I was ~7 years old and I won't use one again unless I become unable to drink from a cup because of illness or frail old age.
Quoted for truth and common sense (hope I do not get a ban). Straws are for kids as is getting a cup full of ice before the 'drink' is put in.
Except it isnt true, really. Straws date back thousands of years, the earliest known use of them was to drink beer and the oldest known straw is 5,000 years old, made of gold and encrusted with lapis lazuli.
 
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Straws are for kids as is getting a cup full of ice before the 'drink' is put in.

If you are serving a drink with ice, then, you should fill the entire glass to the top with ice, then add the drink, the drink should be either chilled or mixed with ice and strained into the new glass.
 
As I alluded to earlier in the thread...
If you are so busy then why would you have a drink long enough for a paper straw to go soggy? It's a complete nonsense...

It's an argument from a totally lazy and self entitled angle.
I know you keep saying this, but they really don't last very long. I eat and drink pretty quickly, and the new cardboard straws are losing their structure well before the end of a 500ml drink, unless you literally down it.
 
If you are serving a drink with ice, then, you should fill the entire glass to the top with ice, then add the drink, the drink should be either chilled or mixed with ice and strained into the new glass.
We are talking about McDonalds, not a cocktail bar.
 
It would be very interesting to see how long it would take people to adapt if they removed disposable cups and straws all together.

It probably wouldn't be great as a lot of fast food eating is spur of the moment, so you wouldn't plan to bring your own cup with you.

What I'm still kind of suprised about is why the UK haven't banned cheap plastic bags in supermarkets completely yet.

I'm guilty of wasting a huge number of plastic bags from supermarket shopping because for the sake of 10p it's not enough of an incentive to always remember to bring my own.
 
It would be very interesting to see how long it would take people to adapt if they removed disposable cups and straws all together.

It probably wouldn't be great as a lot of fast food eating is spur of the moment, so you wouldn't plan to bring your own cup with you.

What I'm still kind of suprised about is why the UK haven't banned cheap plastic bags in supermarkets completely yet.

I'm guilty of wasting a huge number of plastic bags from supermarket shopping because for the sake of 10p it's not enough of an incentive to always remember to bring my own.


Just buy a dozen bag for lifes and put them in the boot every Sunday. That way whenever you pop to the shops you've got a bag. It's cheaper and saves the plastic being used.
 
Yeah, good shout. I've just gone through a particularly lazy patch recently. I've started leaving bags for life near the front door and leaving a few in the boot now.
 
Just buy a dozen bag for lifes and put them in the boot every Sunday. That way whenever you pop to the shops you've got a bag. It's cheaper and saves the plastic being used.

It's difficult to remember to do that, we've been conditioned by a lifetime of free bags with anything and 10p isn't much of a financial penalty to anyone. Monday to Friday I tend to have a backpack with me for work stuff and I have a couple bags in that but often at the weekend I'll just forget. Make bags £5 and donate that to charity
 
Yeah, I do agree it should be much steeper to buy them at point of sale to force people out of the old habit. I think Ireland has raised over £10M odd for eco projects since starting to tax them 17 years ago .
 
yeah I do this - refuse the straw now and drink straight from the cup.... they should only give out a lid if you are in the drive through. If you are sat at a table then it should be cups with no lids or straws
 
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