Why don't they make smaller OLED TVs?

Psycho Sonny said:
Samsung don't even make oled at all.

Seriously you are delusional if you think oled will overtake lcd.

99% of people don't care about picture quality.

I know people who have spent £3k on a single TV (lcd) and their main usage is sky q and Netflix. Not 4k blu rays.

If 1000 people walk into John Lewis and see a 55 inch lcd for £600 and a 55 inch oled for £1200 I know what 999 of them will buy.

There is a reason why hisense is growing.

This is a tech forum full of sweaty nerds. They aren't what makes up the masses.

I'd love oled to become mainstream. I bought several high end plasmas. However nobody else that I know did.

Same thing right now with oled. Nobody I know owns one. Even people living in £800k homes. None of them have oleds
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Samsung never made an oled did they not? Then what is this then?
https://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ke55s9c-201310273395.htm
And what about every phone screen in an s9 or iPhoneX all oled screens made my Samsung
Self emissive technology is they way forward and within 5 years they will overtake LCD sales
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i don't think it will.

there is no market for it.

you have to remember currently OLED is and always will be a niche market due to cost.

i don't know a single person who owns an OLED in real life. i also happen to know 2 people who have spent the best part of 5K on tv's in the past couple of years too. neither of them have OLED in their homes.

OLED's will never ever cater to the small tv market IMO.
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I paid 3.5k for a 30" LCD TV. They were nice niche and expensive back then.

Whaddya know, technology gets cheaper over time.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Samsung don't even make oled at all.
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This is a tech forum full of sweaty nerds. They aren't what makes up the masses.
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this is a light perpiration forum - on the hadrcore forum eg. avsforum everyone can tell you the samsung tv oled technicalities, knows what colour is (lol), and owns an i1, or other too

mid_gen said:
I paid 3.5k for a 30" LCD TV. They were nice niche and expensive back then.
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would you have payed 3.5k again for oled, if they had said that is the price tag ? well i suppose it was £2.5k initially.

I payed what oleds are now for an philips ips 10 years ago, and in the daylight, too old for cognitive dissonance, now think why ? it does still work
 
mid_gen said:
I paid 3.5k for a 30" LCD TV. They were nice niche and expensive back then.

Whaddya know, technology gets cheaper over time.
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If technology gets cheaper over time then why do you have graphics cards today for £1000 15 years ago the most expensive were around half of that.

If indeed oled does become cheaper then LCD will get cheaper too will it not? So again I don't see how the masses will switch to it.

I can see sales of oled peaking and then starting to fall. A lot of people like myself who want quality but are waiting for the right panel at the right price. After we adopt it will only be people who are obsessed that will be regularly buying them.

It leaves a bad taste in people's mouths when they spend £2k or more on a TV and within a year it's outdated. The whole 4k hdr fiasco has peeved a lot of people who bought early.

You also have the fact that everything keeps on going up in price and people's wages have remained stagnant for over a decade. In fact they have decreased in real terms for a decade.

I know even those in good jobs warning £60k+ year who aren't interested in oled or buying tvs regularly. They are the type to buy once every 5-10years. The simple fact is most people don't care. Just because you do doesn't mean everyone does.

Every TV I have bought has been a premium model. 3 plasmas, 3 lcd's. I've now got to the point where I don't even care as much any more. I'll buy what offers the best picture for the right price. So obviously I would like a cheap oled, but I just don't see it happening. If it does I'll buy several. However I reckon LCD will be always be substantially cheaper.

I might one day say you know what let's go for it and get myself a 75" oled but I don't see that happening for a long while yet. At least 3 years to see how it pans out.
 
jpaul said:
this is a light perpiration forum - on the hadrcore forum eg. avsforum everyone can tell you the samsung tv oled technicalities, knows what colour is (lol), and owns an i1, or other too


would you have payed 3.5k again for oled, if they had said that is the price tag ? well i suppose it was £2.5k initially.

I payed what oleds are now for an philips ips 10 years ago, and in the daylight, too old for cognitive dissonance, now think why ? it does still work
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How many other people paid that though?

A handful at best?

For oled to come down in price it requires mass adoption.

Why are smartphones now costing £1000 when 7 years ago the most expensive was like £300? Not everything goes down in price
 
Psycho Sonny said:
How many other people paid that though?

A handful at best?

For oled to come down in price it requires mass adoption.

Why are smartphones now costing £1000 when 7 years ago the most expensive was like £300? Not everything goes down in price
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How much did you pay for your last premium TV and what size?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
If technology gets cheaper over time then why do you have graphics cards today for £1000 15 years ago the most expensive were around half of that.

If indeed oled does become cheaper then LCD will get cheaper too will it not? So again I don't see how the masses will switch to it.

I can see sales of oled peaking and then starting to fall. A lot of people like myself who want quality but are waiting for the right panel at the right price. After we adopt it will only be people who are obsessed that will be regularly buying them.

It leaves a bad taste in people's mouths when they spend £2k or more on a TV and within a year it's outdated. The whole 4k hdr fiasco has peeved a lot of people who bought early.

You also have the fact that everything keeps on going up in price and people's wages have remained stagnant for over a decade. In fact they have decreased in real terms for a decade.

I know even those in good jobs warning £60k+ year who aren't interested in oled or buying tvs regularly. They are the type to buy once every 5-10years. The simple fact is most people don't care. Just because you do doesn't mean everyone does.

Every TV I have bought has been a premium model. 3 plasmas, 3 lcd's. I've now got to the point where I don't even care as much any more. I'll buy what offers the best picture for the right price. So obviously I would like a cheap oled, but I just don't see it happening. If it does I'll buy several. However I reckon LCD will be always be substantially cheaper.

I might one day say you know what let's go for it and get myself a 75" oled but I don't see that happening for a long while yet. At least 3 years to see how it pans out.
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Well a 55” oled can be had for just over £1200 and I’m certain Black Friday will see the first 55” under £1000 and at those prices any other tv isn’t even in the same sport never mind the same league, so I don’t really get why you think they are so expensive when you paid £900 for a much smaller size in fact you have just contridicted yourself
 
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woppy101 said:
Well a 55” oled can be had for just over £1200 and I’m certain Black Friday will see the first 55” under £1000 and at those prices any other tv isn’t even in the same sport never mind the same league, so I don’t really get why you think they are so expensive when you paid £900 for a much smaller size in fact you have just contridicted yourself
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Because I don't represent the masses. I will own an oled.

The fact is I need a 43" oled for 1 room. I need a 50" oled for another they are the max that fit in the spaces I have created for them. In the other room world the world is my oyster.

So I really hope they make smaller ones but I'm realistic. They won't because people who want oled generally want bigger sizes.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
How many other people paid that though?

A handful at best?

For oled to come down in price it requires mass adoption.

Why are smartphones now costing £1000 when 7 years ago the most expensive was like £300? Not everything goes down in price
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Mobile phones are massively cheaper than they used to be.

Just because Apple have tapped into a rich vein of mugs doesn't mean the technology is more expensive.

TV technology will continue to improve and get cheaper...and sooner or later someone will cater to the smaller market.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Because I don't represent the masses. I will own an oled.

The fact is I need a 43" oled for 1 room. I need a 50" oled for another they are the max that fit in the spaces I have created for them. In the other room world the world is my oyster.

So I really hope they make smaller ones but I'm realistic. They won't because people who want oled generally want bigger sizes.
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They only reason they don’t make them in smaller sizes at the minute is because in the current production facility they only get 3 65” panels from the oled substrate sheet. In the new facility coming online in 2020 they will get 8 65” panels from the oled substrate sheet so smaller sizes will then start to be produced.
 
woppy101 said:
They only reason they don’t make them in smaller sizes at the minute is because in the current production facility they only get 3 65” panels from the oled substrate sheet. In the new facility coming online in 2020 they will get 8 65” panels from the oled substrate sheet so smaller sizes will then start to be produced.
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I hope that's true. But I honestly would be surprised if they made anything below 50 inches. Also how does oled do when it comes to 8K will there be issues for the future?

A combination of things killed off plasma. Price wasn't one of them. It was consumer knowledge, higher profit margins of LCD, unable to scale to 4k, power consumption, image retention, etc, etc.

£ for £ they were cheaper than LCD when comparing top end models
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I hope that's true. But I honestly would be surprised if they made anything below 50 inches. Also how does oled do when it comes to 8K will there be issues for the future?

A combination of things killed off plasma. Price wasn't one of them. It was consumer knowledge, higher profit margins of LCD, unable to scale to 4k, power consumption, image retention, etc, etc.

£ for £ they were cheaper than LCD when comparing top end models
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LG have already demo’d an 8k oled, but where a long way off that
 
55" feels too small to me now! Will be getting a 65" or bigger OLED for the main room.

woppy101 said:
People underestimate what true black really does to picture quality and the amount of depth it brings to a picture
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This this this!

The amount of times I say about true blacks mattering the most and people always roll their eyes at that and then go on about resolution "4k!!!!!!!!!!" mattering the most....... and then once they see an OLED TV or even an OLED mobile (especially in dark conditions), they always quickly change their tune, especially when they see true HDR media playing :cool:
 
Nexus18 said:
55" feels too small to me now! Will be getting a 65" or bigger OLED for the main room.
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Funny you say that, as I feel the same.



This this this!

The amount of times I say about true blacks mattering the most and people always roll their eyes at that and then go on about resolution "4k!!!!!!!!!!" mattering the most....... and then once they see an OLED TV or even an OLED mobile (especially in dark conditions), they always quickly change their tune, especially when they see true HDR media playing :cool:
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Nexus18 said:
The amount of times I say about true blacks mattering the most and people always roll their eyes at that and then go on about resolution "4k!!!!!!!!!!" mattering the most....... and then once they see an OLED TV or even an OLED mobile (especially in dark conditions), they always quickly change their tune, especially when they see true HDR media playing :cool:
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I'm with you on that true black above everything else, hell thatst why the LG oleds have a firework screensaver to remind us that's it's on!
 
woppy101 said:
They only reason they don’t make them in smaller sizes at the minute is because in the current production facility they only get 3 65” panels from the oled substrate sheet. In the new facility coming online in 2020 they will get 8 65” panels from the oled substrate sheet so smaller sizes will then start to be produced.
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I'm wondering if Qled would have improved blacks and contrast by then and be cheaper? I've been waiting for a 48 inch OLED for two years now and have given up.
 
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