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Why GPU prices are NOT likely to drop significantly EVER!

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Supply will improve significantly, demand will fall (Ethereum mining is ending this year) and so prices will be close to reference model RRP prices (within 0-10%). It's that simple, it just takes time and patience.

We have already seen used graphics card prices fall on websites like CEX.

The Series S console has been readily available for months (which has a reasonable GPU).

Plus, Nvidia Graphics cards with more VRAM will be available next year, so it will be an all round better time to buy.

You seem very eager to claim prices will remain high forever, what is the benefit of buying right now though?

Seems like wishful thinking here.
By the time we get a decent price cut the 4000/7000 series will be here and todays GPUs will be removed from the shelves.
Buy now and enjoy gaming on your new hi-speed GPU (enough stock in shops at big prices now), waiting 6/12 months is time wasted just to save a few hundred.
A few hundred only buys you a meal at a fancy restaurant nowadays. Wait to see if they release a monster RT GPU later on.
 
There's stock all over the place now.

I note the big Indian restaurant shop are finally showing stock of 3070's and 3060's on their website - lol, but not at the prices they have listed for the out of stock products, they are all double MSRP like everywhere else.

Tide is turning however, I'll be holding out for a long while yet. :D

If you're gonna wait for a long time then might as well wait for 4000/7000 series.
 
If you're gonna wait for a long time then might as well wait for 4000/7000 series.

This is what I am doing now. We are nearly a year since the 3000 series launched. They are already dated!!! I can't imagine prices being down to what I will pay by September so I will probably now just wait until the 4000 series. Having said that, it may well be that prices never fall to what I will pay (!) so I will eventually get a card lower than I would normally buy. I usually get a X080, so perhaps next time I will get a 4070. I am an enthusiast, but I point blank refuse to be held hostage like this over the price.
 
Do you guys honestly think 4000 series will be any cheaper? Even when the shortage is over nvidia/AMD/ retailers are going to jack up prices to current levels. As a result mainstream pc gaming will die
 
Do you guys honestly think 4000 series will be any cheaper? Even when the shortage is over nvidia/AMD/ retailers are going to jack up prices to current levels. As a result mainstream pc gaming will die
They can't over price them to much since they will have to compete with all the cheap ampere ex mining cards that will flood the market when ETH goes POS next year.
 
I can see it being like petrol prices...

Start at 89p //Everyone happy
Go up to 109p //Everyone gets upset
Drop down to 99p //Everyone happy again despite being shafted still...
 
Do you guys honestly think 4000 series will be any cheaper? Even when the shortage is over nvidia/AMD/ retailers are going to jack up prices to current levels. As a result mainstream pc gaming will die
It's fine we can skip a generation with all our cheap ex mining cards.:D

Something tells me they won't have choice but to make it cheaper. People who overpayed for their GPUs will not want to switch over immediately and those who didn't overpay are money conscious buyers so will not be interested.

With AMD back on the scene, who ever launches first will be aware that if they screw the pooch on pricing they lose the generation. There is a reason why the 3080s MSRP was so cheap.
 
Do you guys honestly think 4000 series will be any cheaper? Even when the shortage is over nvidia/AMD/ retailers are going to jack up prices to current levels. As a result mainstream pc gaming will die

It wont because developers want their games to be bought by millions of people. If GPU's got too expensive then game developers will just stop innovating the graphics so faster graphics cards aren't needed. Just like games didn't need more than 4 cores until those CPU's actually existied.

Hardware and software development/adoption has always worked in unison.
 
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It wont because developers want their games to be bought by millions of people. If GPU's got too expensive then game developers will just stop innovating the graphics so faster graphics cards aren't needed. Just like games didn't need more than 4 cores until those CPU's actually existied.
So they put them on consoles.

I think the way that PC gaming potentially dies will be in the same manner that the motorbike industry is currently fighting. An ageing customer base. Take the 4k gaming argument in the other thread. A child can buy a console for £500 and gets 4k gaming (within reason) or you have people on the internet forums and youtubers telling you, you need a £600 GPU to game at 4k on your £600+ monitor, to go along with your £1000+ PC. Oh and you may not be able to play with all your friends at school because not everyone can afford to drop £2000 on a baller PC. don't forget to buy the latest and greatest every generation.
I believe even on these forums alone a number of posters are quite old. It would be interesting to take a poll of the age of pc gamers on these forums.

If prices keep going as they are, we will see less young people getting into PC gaming, because they simply cannot afford it.
 
So they put them on consoles.

I think the way that PC gaming potentially dies will be in the same manner that the motorbike industry is currently fighting. An ageing customer base. Take the 4k gaming argument in the other thread. A child can buy a console for £500 and gets 4k gaming (within reason) or you have people on the internet forums and youtubers telling you, you need a £600 GPU to game at 4k on your £600+ monitor, to go along with your £1000+ PC. Oh and you may not be able to play with all your friends at school because not everyone can afford to drop £2000 on a baller PC. don't forget to buy the latest and greatest every generation.
I believe even on these forums alone a number of posters are quite old. It would be interesting to take a poll of the age of pc gamers on these forums.

Yeah but there's always been a huge price differenece between consoles and PC gaming.

In 1998 I bought a new Playstation for £99.99.

In 1999 I built my first PC for £800.

That's 8x times the price. Today, people are moaning because a PC costs just 4x the price. Am I missing something? The prices are now closer.
 
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Yeah but there's always bee a huge price differenece between consoles and PC gaming.

In 1999 I bought a new Playstation for £99.99.

Also In 1999 I built my first PC for £800.

That's 8x times the price. Today, people are moaning because a PC costs just 4x the price. Am I missing something? The prices are now closer.
Exactly pcs have always been a lot more expensive than the consoles. Also new to pc gaming do not need the latest and greatest gear, geeze most of us started out on second hand gear not the best in class as most want now and don't even use the systems to their full potential.

Pc gaming has always and will always remain the highest quality gaming experience and will always cost more to get. You can't compare a console to a pc as they are totally different markets.
 
I somewhat agree @Chuk_Chuk - even though the consoles are not exactly cheap (few hundred quid, even as a birthday/xmas gift its quite a lot for regular families to drop on one) and the games are quite steep, the demographic for enthusiasts on pc tends to be from the older generation gamers. Its not covering all the base, but I think its fairly accurate. I remember when I went to university most friends had weaker setups than I did and didn't mind just above entry spec as they couldn't afford a meaty build or had pre-builds. Even when they got good jobs later on in life they never spent a lot on a PC tbf.
 
Yeah but there's always bee a huge price differenece between consoles and PC gaming.

In 1998 I bought a new Playstation for £99.99.

In 1999 I built my first PC for £800.

That's 8x times the price. Today, people are moaning because a PC costs just 4x the price. Am I missing something? The prices are now closer.
those were the early days of the market, the way the market grows/behaves during the early days is different to a mature market. As the older generations leaves the hobby of a mature market whether that is by force or by choice, you need the younger generation to move in to replace them as a consumer. People are unlikely to pick up a new hobby unless they are exposed to it in their younger years.

Exactly pcs have always been a lot more expensive than the consoles. Also new to pc gaming do not need the latest and greatest gear, geeze most of us started out on second hand gear not the best in class as most want now and don't even use the systems to their full potential.

Pc gaming has always and will always remain the highest quality gaming experience and will always cost more to get. You can't compare a console to a pc as they are totally different markets.
It was a tongue in cheek comment, i know you don't need the latest and greatest i'm here waiting patiently on a 970. But you can't deny that people do act like you do need the latest. And a new person to this hobby won't know any better.
 
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