Prices are lower than a month ago on other retailers, fairly easy to find 3080s now (not saying they are cheap"), they were near impossible to find couple months ago, not saying the prices are good but stock is definitely easier to find now.
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Why GPU prices are NOT likely to drop significantly EVER!
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Prices are lower than a month ago on other retailers, fairly easy to find 3080s now (not saying they are cheap"), they were near impossible to find couple months ago, not saying the prices are good but stock is definitely easier to find now.
A quick googles shows MSI 3070ti trio in stock for just over £800 which is only about £200 over msrp for an 3070ti AIB, 3070 non ti were £1200 a month ago and now you can find 3080 for less so prices definetly falling.
Give it another month and 3080s will be under 1k.
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There are lots of reasons why GPUs are expensive at the moment but you seem to have missed nearly all of them.
He paid £700 for a 6700XT so probably seeking justification.
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My abiding memory of Harold Lloyd is him being wasted on ether.
A bit like graphics cards, really...
We used to get the occasional moan about high Nvidia prices due "AMD not competing at the high-end" (AKA I want AMD to compete at the high-end so I can not buy their GPUs but instead get a Nvidia card for less...), but blaming AMD for the housing shortage is a new one!
Soldato
There are lots of reasons why GPUs are expensive at the moment but you seem to have missed nearly all of them.
Another reason for a like button.
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The debt in the US is insane right now, I think 28.5 Trillion and that's not counting unfunded liabilities. Each tax paying US citizens share of that debt is about $227,000. At this point they literally cannot raise interest rates because it would make that debt impossible to manage. The total unfunded liabilities is $150 Trillion, let that sink in for a second.
I actually think the next big bubble to pop will be the student loans bubble. They've been guaranteeing loans and it's lead to radically unsafe lending of what are essentially unsecured loans that you can't declare bankruptcy and get out of. Meanwhile because demand for uni has increased as more people can go the prices have inflated, coupled with the fact that it's "safe" to just lend any amount of money the unis have just been having one huge party jacking up prices. There's people in the US coming out of uni with $100k+ loans for degrees that are almost useless. And the interest repayments are so high on the loans that they can't actually eat into the principal, essentially they're screwed for life. It's why student loan debt forgiveness is becoming a big issue in the US. The total student loan debt is $1.7 Trillion.
i think the real financial impact of Covid and the extreme amount of handouts that have been made has truly not been felt yet. You've had an economy propped up by governments paying huge amounts of money into businesses to keep them afloat, paying wages, deferring tax, creating unsafe loans, giving out grants. And a significant number of people at home buying endless goods off amazon to keep entertained including consoles and GPUs. I think we could be in for a very rough time ahead as things get back to normal, there's insane debt that needs paying back and an economy right on the edge. There's also a scary amount of people who just don't even really want to go back to work, they've become so accustomed to staying at home and getting a paycheck and living the good life.
In a recession which I think might be coming, the first things to go are luxury goods and for sure video cards fit that category. Also any kind of financial crash or hyperinflation is likely to make people want to jump onto bitcoin to stop all their savings being wiped out and if interest surges so will the value and with that incentives to mine it will go up. So it could get very bad, I could see console-like business model of paying pittence for the hardware but then premiums for the games/connect being something people move towards.
I actually think the next big bubble to pop will be the student loans bubble. They've been guaranteeing loans and it's lead to radically unsafe lending of what are essentially unsecured loans that you can't declare bankruptcy and get out of. Meanwhile because demand for uni has increased as more people can go the prices have inflated, coupled with the fact that it's "safe" to just lend any amount of money the unis have just been having one huge party jacking up prices. There's people in the US coming out of uni with $100k+ loans for degrees that are almost useless. And the interest repayments are so high on the loans that they can't actually eat into the principal, essentially they're screwed for life. It's why student loan debt forgiveness is becoming a big issue in the US. The total student loan debt is $1.7 Trillion.
i think the real financial impact of Covid and the extreme amount of handouts that have been made has truly not been felt yet. You've had an economy propped up by governments paying huge amounts of money into businesses to keep them afloat, paying wages, deferring tax, creating unsafe loans, giving out grants. And a significant number of people at home buying endless goods off amazon to keep entertained including consoles and GPUs. I think we could be in for a very rough time ahead as things get back to normal, there's insane debt that needs paying back and an economy right on the edge. There's also a scary amount of people who just don't even really want to go back to work, they've become so accustomed to staying at home and getting a paycheck and living the good life.
In a recession which I think might be coming, the first things to go are luxury goods and for sure video cards fit that category. Also any kind of financial crash or hyperinflation is likely to make people want to jump onto bitcoin to stop all their savings being wiped out and if interest surges so will the value and with that incentives to mine it will go up. So it could get very bad, I could see console-like business model of paying pittence for the hardware but then premiums for the games/connect being something people move towards.
you can still buy top end decent pcs for that just have to wait for deals. card prices will drop and are dropping.
This post doesn't make a lot of sense. Also, you need a **** ton of citations, mate. Sounds like speculation and babble.
Yep. Stock is steadily rising already. Thats why prices are now at around 60% above MSRP rather than prices being double and above like it used to be a couple of months ago.
Don't know what OP is on about. Technology gets smaller and cheaper every year. (Probably a scalper trying to cause fear and delude public perception in an attempt to jack up GPU prices).
Yep. Stock is steadily rising already. Thats why prices are now at around 60% above MSRP rather than prices being double and above like it used to be a couple of months ago.
Don't know what OP is on about. Technology gets smaller and cheaper every year. (Probably a scalper trying to cause fear and delude public perception in an attempt to jack up GPU prices).
which guy again? there's too many.
Soldato
<<< this guy is still waiting for prices to drop lol.
My eleven year old last night "when are you going to get me a new gfx card?!"(she is running a 270x 2gb, but wants to play rtx minecraft, and I have been talking about getting her a card for over a year, but heck no with these prices.).
My eleven year old last night "when are you going to get me a new gfx card?!"(she is running a 270x 2gb, but wants to play rtx minecraft, and I have been talking about getting her a card for over a year, but heck no with these prices.).
Soldato
Worst value card out there. The 6800 is barely any more money and is just sooo much better.
You maybe in for a long wait.
Yes I will
I think people are in for a huge shock next gen with prices and performance, then you have people waiting for unrealistic prices before buying what they want. 
Clearly people that don't understand what is happening in the world and the costs of making technology better now. Same people that buy a £2K mobile phone on contract and don't realise they paid £2k for it and it has a real cost that is hidden in monthly phone plans. Anyways we will see when the time comes and we will have the same people out in force saying the same things again.
Reality now is buy if you need an upgrade or a card to get your pc working, but if it's a want upgrade and you realistically can wait then do that and look into the second hand market when it calms down as this gen and next gen are going to be and remain expensive as many that complained when MSRP came out even before the silly price gouging and scalping, said they wouldn't pay msrp.. well you have been priced out of the market for that tier card and should be looking down the teirs for one in your price range.
Clearly people that don't understand what is happening in the world and the costs of making technology better now. Same people that buy a £2K mobile phone on contract and don't realise they paid £2k for it and it has a real cost that is hidden in monthly phone plans. Anyways we will see when the time comes and we will have the same people out in force saying the same things again.
Reality now is buy if you need an upgrade or a card to get your pc working, but if it's a want upgrade and you realistically can wait then do that and look into the second hand market when it calms down as this gen and next gen are going to be and remain expensive as many that complained when MSRP came out even before the silly price gouging and scalping, said they wouldn't pay msrp.. well you have been priced out of the market for that tier card and should be looking down the teirs for one in your price range.
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