Not intel. If ppl can't afford they will not buy. that's how it works.
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Why GPU prices are NOT likely to drop significantly EVER!
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Not intel. If ppl can't afford they will not buy. that's how it works.
Yep second hand mining cards would eat up some of the demand but the demand is GODZILLA like with millions of Geforce gamers wanting to upgrade.
Yeah it's the same in Venezuela if they can't afford food they skip meals.
Huge demand=some desperate people will buy the miniscule stock at some point.
A good marketing play, they are trying to sell more stuff while the GPU shortage lasts.
I never mentioned Intel. AMD/Nvidia won't be selling GPUs that people can't afford.
Nope only my GTX 1060sc and after 5 years its still selling at £180 on ebay!
Decided to keep it in my old PC in case my main PC gets faulty.
I thought you were referring to Intel?
I think most of of the expensive GPU stock will be shifted at some point as there are plenty of desperate people out there, its not that different to what happens in the stock markets when prices go high.
There are lots of reasons why GPUs are expensive at the moment but you seem to have missed nearly all of them.
Do you mean semiconductor shortage? What else?
Anyway I'm telling people to get positioned for what's incoming.
Yep paid a bit over the top for the performance, but still happy with it after a few months.
I would wager that there are more people who set limits on their spending, than people who are "desperate" for a new GPU to game on, and would buy in at any price.
e: Or people whose wives set limits on their spending
I'm not talking about a few points increase in yearly inflation I'm referring to a huge surge in inflation NOT seen for decades.
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The only thing incoming is one of the Dons telling you to sort your signature out.
If you can not even get your signature correct I suspect your understanding of upcoming economic events is more than a bit limited.
This is a good read too:- https://semiengineering.com/bumps-vs-hybrid-bonding-for-advanced-packaging/
Part taken from that article Bumps Vs. Hybrid Bonding For Advanced Packaging, The full article is very good.
End of Moore’s Law?
For decades, the IC industry has attempted to keep pace with Moore’s Law, doubling the transistor density in chips every 18 to 24 months. But starting a decade ago, at 20nm, chipmakers began replacing planar transistors with finFETs because the gate structure on smaller transistors was insufficient to control current leakage. Transistors continued to leak after devices were turned off, which continued to drain batteries.
Intel introduced finFETs at 22nm in 2011, using what it called a Tri-Gate structure to control leakage at three points in the “off” state, and allow more current to move through when the vertical gates were opened in the “on” state. Foundries followed with finFETs at 16/14nm.
But finFETs also are more complex, driving up design and manufacturing costs. The cost to design a 7nm device is roughly $217 million, compared to $40 million for a 28nm chip, according to Handel Jones, CEO of IBS.
For chips at 7nm and below, the power and performance benefits have started to diminish, leaving many to realize that developing an SoC isn’t always the right solution. “A monolithic die approach forces a one-size-fits-all solution, which is not optimal,” said Walter Ng, vice president of business development for UMC.
So the industry is looking at alternatives, such as advanced packaging, which promises to address several issues in systems. For example, vendors can break up a large SoC into smaller chiplets and incorporate them in a package, creating an advanced system-level design. “Therefore, the system can be optimized by using the best processor components with an optimum performance/cost process node,” said Xiao Liu, senior program manager from Brewer Science, in a paper at the IEEE Electronic Components and Technology Conference (ECTC).
For this and other applications, there are several ways to integrate chips in packages, such as fan-out. In one example of fan-out, a DRAM die is stacked on a logic die in a package.
2.5D is another option. In 2.5D, dies are stacked on an interposer, which incorporates through-silicon vias (TSVs). Another option is 3D-ICs, where logic-on-logic or logic-on-memory are stacked in a 3D-like package.
None of these technologies will replace traditional SoCs, but they can be used to supplement them. In fact, leading-edge chips often are incorporated in advanced packages. The package boosts the performance of the design.
Going forward, there is some uncertainty. Chipmakers are ramping up 5nm chips, with 3nm and beyond in R&D. It’s hard to predict when, but at some point traditional chip scaling will falter. When that occurs, the industry will need help from packaging to stay on the roadmap. That’s why the chiplet model is important. In one futuristic scenario, vendors may integrate chiplets in 3D-like packages, creating system-level designs that mimic a traditional SoC.
Nonetheless, there are many packaging options today with bumps and other interconnect schemes. Now, hybrid bonding is in the mix. So what’s the best option?
Didn't we see this in 2016? GPUS inflated and out of stock everywhere?
Come 2018 prices were back to normal and you could get an RX570 for £70
I'm a little concerned about when the entry level cards will become available though, especially for NVIDIA - what will the new 1650 be?
Come 2018 prices were back to normal and you could get an RX570 for £70
I'm a little concerned about when the entry level cards will become available though, especially for NVIDIA - what will the new 1650 be?
Probably a 3050 for around £250 msrp.
Well, aside from the fact that GPUs don't just play games...
You could say that about every hobby there is. Playing guitar is pointless. Playing golf is pointless. Watching footy down the pub is pointless.
I mean I could go on for hours couldn't I? Listing all the pointless things that people do just because they're fun.
GPU prices have already dropped from their highest level, just seen a 6700xt in stock at £650, so easily possible to get a decent GPU for less than £700. Plus if you have a decent GPU to sell it might be overpriced itself in the current market and selling it might make the final price reasonable, ie I sell my Vega 56 for £200, buy the AIB card for £650 = final price of £450 for decent AIB 6700xt. I am still going to wait for prices to drop further before I do buy though, despite your opinion, as I have always bought my gpu at end of life for a discount
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