Why you SHOULD be using Firefox

Use Brave brower instead, no more ads or annoyances on youtube.

Ads are like someone stabbing you in the eye, I refuse to allow for any ads anywhere in my home...

I can't understand why anyone would use inferior ad ridden brwosers instead. Perhaps the sync between phones/pc's, but Brave allows sync as wel...
I only regret not moving way from Chrome sooner. Firefox I also dumped a while ago for a different Brave profile: it was slow as hell in comparison and indeed, FF+adblock issues on YT,
 
Use Brave brower instead, no more ads or annoyances on youtube.

Ads are like someone stabbing you in the eye, I refuse to allow for any ads anywhere in my home...

I can't understand why anyone would use inferior ad ridden brwosers instead. Perhaps the sync between phones/pc's, but Brave allows sync as wel...
I only regret not moving way from Chrome sooner. Firefox I also dumped a while ago for a different Brave profile: it was slow as hell in comparison and indeed, FF+adblock issues on YT,

Prefer my browsers not to scam me, inject crypto crap and be generally terrible thanks.
 
The fastest and most ad-free browser is crap?

Firefox is much slower, and gives youtube issues, for me that is enough reason to avoid it.
Everyone wants to make money somewhere, I tried looking for reasons not use Brave, but couldn't find any...

The crypto thing I completely ignore, I've never even noticed anything in the past weeks of use...
As for telemetry, there are far worse offenders, both Google and MS Windows and Samsung create way more more telemetry (which is mostly being blocked by my PiHole...).

I would go as far as to call Firefox + adblocker unusable on Youtube, just open 15 video's you want to watch in new tabs and it crawls to a halt, even with a fast cpu, gpu and 64gb of ram... While Brave handles it effortlessly.


I only care about 2 things: Speed/responsivity and I do not want to see any ads on websites ever, in any video player, etc... The rest is unimportant for me. So far no other browser has given me a decent YT or adult site experience but Brave.

Privacy or safety is not a factor for my personal home computer and it never will be. At worst they can steal my payment information and I will get it back from International card services/Visa/Mastercard...
 
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The fastest and most ad-free browser is crap?

Firefox is much slower, and gives youtube issues, for me that is enough reason to avoid it.
Everyone wants to make money somewhere, I tried looking for reasons not use Brave, but couldn't find any...

The crypto thing I completely ignore, I've never even noticed anything in the past weeks of use...
As for telemetry, there are far worse offenders, both Google and MS Windows and Samsung create way more more telemetry (which is mostly being blocked by my PiHole...).

I would go as far as to call Firefox + adblocker unusable on Youtube, just open 15 video's you want to watch in new tabs and it crawls to a halt, even with a fast cpu, gpu and 64gb of ram... While Brave handles it effortlessly.


I only care about 2 things: Speed/responsivity and I do not want to see any ads on websites ever, in any video player, etc... The rest is unimportant for me. So far no other browser has given me a decent YT or adult site experience but Brave.

Privacy or safety is not a factor for my personal home computer and it never will be. At worst they can steal my payment information and I will get it back from International card services/Visa/Mastercard...
It's not Firefox that's the problem, but Google deliberatly making it worse.
Brave is just using the Chrome engine, still will be prevented from fully using ad blockers

Google wants full control of the browing experience so they can serve you ads. The only browser they can't control is Firefox so they make it a bad experience instead.
 
v136 has annoyed me slightly. Each time I launch Firefox, I am taken to my homepage which is google.co.uk. I don't care to use Firefox Home and I've done this for as long as I can remember - Google is a simple homepage, even if it is probably seen as old school these days. :o

Ever since v136 installed today, when I launch Firefox I am asked for my master password for Firefox. I can only think this is because I'm not signed into Google, again another one of my stubborn choices I wish to maintain - for all Google probably tracks us all anyway, I'd rather not link my data to a Google account where possible.
Finally this is fixed in v136.0.2 after 14 days of me complaining about it on here. Firefox no longer prompts for my master password on each launch.
  • Fixed an issue where the Primary Password prompt appeared in unexpected situations. (Bug 1946121)
 
Whatever is going on with youtube, I think its a/b testing, for a month or two a while back youtube suddenly slowed to a crawl, I then got rid of most of the slow down by preventing comments from loading on videos. However suddenly as quick as it came on it all went away again and I havent seen the problem since.
 
I haven't read this thread but why you should be using Firefox: because when I installed it on my new build it found all my old passwords off the old drive in under a second without being directed. It's the only thing that installed simply on my new win 11 build
 
The fastest and most ad-free browser is crap?

Firefox is much slower, and gives youtube issues, for me that is enough reason to avoid it.
Everyone wants to make money somewhere, I tried looking for reasons not use Brave, but couldn't find any...

The crypto thing I completely ignore, I've never even noticed anything in the past weeks of use...
As for telemetry, there are far worse offenders, both Google and MS Windows and Samsung create way more more telemetry (which is mostly being blocked by my PiHole...).

I would go as far as to call Firefox + adblocker unusable on Youtube, just open 15 video's you want to watch in new tabs and it crawls to a halt, even with a fast cpu, gpu and 64gb of ram... While Brave handles it effortlessly.


I only care about 2 things: Speed/responsivity and I do not want to see any ads on websites ever, in any video player, etc... The rest is unimportant for me. So far no other browser has given me a decent YT or adult site experience but Brave.

Privacy or safety is not a factor for my personal home computer and it never will be. At worst they can steal my payment information and I will get it back from International card services/Visa/Mastercard...

Why are you opening 15 tabs of YT videos at once?

Create a playlist maybe? :D

I've got 32GB of RAM and 38 FF tabs open, (general browsing on 1, all my POE bookmarks on a 2nd iteration) and i've just added 15 YT tabs making a total of 53 tabs, and FF is running all of them flawlessly.

Sounds like a user problem to me.
 
I tend to have loads of tabs open using firefox (my main bestie), Opera (for watching news and livestreams), Edge occasionally. Don't even have Chrome installed. Have to say my you tube experience has been awful in recent months
 
Maybe you didn't look very far...

Their level of trust is through the floor IMO.

I scanned through that article and can't find anything I care about.
It is the only browser that blocks all ads for me properly, ubock origin and abp on other browsers simply don't, especially in video players.

I don't care about privacy online., I don't care about anything else, I just want the fastest browser without seeing any ads and syncing between all the devices I regularly use ( 3 laptops, 2 desktops, ipad, 2 phones, etc...).


Why are you opening 15 tabs of YT videos at once?

Create a playlist maybe? :D

I've got 32GB of RAM and 38 FF tabs open, (general browsing on 1, all my POE bookmarks on a 2nd iteration) and i've just added 15 YT tabs making a total of 53 tabs, and FF is running all of them flawlessly.

Sounds like a user problem to me.

What? Why are you telling me how I use youtube? I want all 15 vids to pre buffer as much (so i will pre open them and pause them with space key) as possible because I quickly scour through video's with the arrow keys to see if they contain what I want. I sometimes want to watch 10 video's in 30 seconds or so until I hit the thing I want to see, I watch that for a few mins, then move on to the next.
I watch 50 ish video's daily this way...

And yes, I also open playlists with 1000+ video's and these crawl Firefox to a halt as well (just open a playlist (overview) with 4000 video's, scroll to video 2000 with ctrl+end until you're there (yes this makes youtube load the next x video's every so often), Brave will reach that point about 3x as fast as Firefox and will crawl to a halt). And yes I always have 3 screens at my desks so will often play more than 1 simultaneously.

Across the board on various OS-es and Browsers and HW specs, Brave perforns much faster than firefox. Media heavy sites on firefox load slowly. Brave has much better caching and preloading.

For work because we have so many ms365 tenants I use sperate profiles for every customer, so I often open a lot of portals at once: Entra/Identity, intune, ms365, exchange online, azure, etc after the MS SSO step... Some even have their own ticket systems and RMM environments or heavy webapps. So yeah, I often have about 10-15 browser windows open each with 10+ tabs. I have about 40 ish browser profiles and slowly moving away from Chrome into Brave, again, I've experimented with Firefox but it almost feels like Firefox is single threading things that should be multi threaded.
From my experience Firefox is about 30% slower than Brave which is huge. Websites are optimized for Chromium and Firefox's handling of JS heavy sites is **** imo.

But also for home/media use Firefox is noticeably significantly slower. Youtube takes the cake, but also CENSOREDvideo's or youCENSORED or CENSOREDhub... They are all ad ridden (the video players) even with ubock on firefox, but not in Brave...

I still keep Firefox as I test webapps in various programs and still have my history from years of use and occasionally look through my browsing history on FF. But it's really sluggish compared to Brave.

I don't believe you saying Firefox loads quickly to be honest, I use so much hardware and on high end pc's/laptops Brave loads a YT page + video + comments twice as fast than FF.
Time to first frame/autoplay is also much faster, about 1-2 sec on brave for a 4k video, and more than 3 seconds for slowpoke firefox.


I mainly use a high end gaming pc, or a Surface Laptop (ryzen 7), but also older laptops like Surface Book (i7) or older gaming laptops and on all the bottleneck of FF is very apparent. It's actually bugging me now that people are trying to convince me this is not so.
 
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And yes, I also open playlists with 1000+ video's and these crawl Firefox to a halt as well (just open a playlist (overview) with 4000 video's, scroll to video 2000 with ctrl+end until you're there (yes this makes youtube load the next x video's every so often), Brave will reach that point about 3x as fast as Firefox and will crawl to a halt).

Something wrong with your setup - I just tried this in Firefox with one of the biggest music playlists and it was instant scrolling through or going straight to the bottom. Same with opening 15 videos on YT not even a hint of grinding to a halt (though there is a known issue with FF which I don't believe is currently fixed despite some claims of such in a recent update where if you flip between streams a lot eventually it will cause the browser to become laggy).

EDIT: One thing I have found is that large numbers of Twitter tabs open in the background can cause overall performance issues, some of the stuff is does FF doesn't seem to handle well if they are sitting there semi-passively over a long time period. A self solving problem for me as I tend to actively try and avoid Twitter as a source for anything these days.
 
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How do you get the whole playlist to load in the first place? For me if I load my likes it only loads the first 100 and I have to ctrl+ end for each 100 extra to load for a while.
Once you have gone over 2000 the loading becomes slower and slower in firefox...
 
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How do you get the whole playlist to load in the first place? For me if I load my likes it only loads the first 100 and I have to ctrl+ end for each 100 extra to load for a while.

Once you have gone over 2000 the loading becomes slower and slower in firefox...

If I use ctrl+end it jumps in segments with slightly delayed loading yes though I can instantly ctrl+end again and it moves on without waiting for the bits that are loading, if I scroll down with the mouse it works instantly without delay.
 
Keep ctrl+ end pressed until you're at say 2000/4500 video's, and it's still fast?

For me the slowdown becomes noticable around video 700-800 in FF while around 1400-1500 in Brave, and yes even brave gets slower and slower after a while...
 
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Keep ctrl+ end pressed until you're at say 2000/4500 video's, and it's still fast?

For me the slowdown becomes noticable around video 700-800 in FF while around 1400-1500 in Brave, and yes even brave gets slower and slower after a while...

No problems for me on 1000+ song playlists - at worst it occasionally sits for half a second to a second before letting you move on (doesn't effect whole browser just the list moving in that individual instance).
 
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Odd, that is different behavior than I am expecting. Does it handle music playlists differently from video playlists?

I asked GROK which scoured over 30 websites for me and compiled this list ( I asked GROK to score the speed, which I agree is just an estimation, but Firefox is not even in the top 5, which should say enough):


Assumptions and Methodology​

  1. Ad-Blocking Requirement: Only browsers with built-in ad-blocking (e.g., Brave, Opera) or those compatible with uBlock Origin/Adblock Plus (e.g., Chrome, Firefox) are included. Browsers without ad-blocking or extension support are excluded.
  2. Speed Focus: Speed scores are derived from synthetic benchmarks like Speedometer 2.0 (responsiveness), JetStream 2 (JavaScript performance), and MotionMark (graphics rendering), averaged into a composite "speed score" normalized to a 0-100 scale for simplicity. These are estimates based on historical data and trends up to 2025.
  3. Normalization: Since raw benchmark scores vary across tests, I’ve synthesized them into a relative ranking. Higher scores indicate faster performance.
  4. Environment: Assumes a modern mid-range system (e.g., Intel i5, 16GB RAM, Windows 11 or macOS) with uBlock Origin installed where applicable, as it’s lighter and faster than ABP.
  5. Limitations: Exact scores are illustrative, not definitive, due to the absence of a single 2025-specific benchmark covering all 20 browsers with ad-blocking enabled.

Top 20 Browsers Ranked by Speed (with Ad-Blocking)​

Here’s the table, sorted by estimated speed score:
RankBrowserSpeed Score (0-100)Ad-Blocking MethodNotes
1Brave95Built-inChromium-based, optimized for speed and privacy, minimal overhead.
2Google Chrome92uBlock OriginFastest raw performance, slightly impacted by extension overhead.
3Microsoft Edge90uBlock OriginChromium-based, excellent hardware acceleration, lightweight.
4Opera88Built-inBuilt-in ad-blocker, strong performance, slight bloat from features.
5Vivaldi86uBlock OriginHighly customizable, Chromium-based, minor speed trade-off.
6Safari85uBlock Origin (macOS)Top graphics performance, limited by extension ecosystem.
7Firefox83uBlock OriginStrong JS performance, lags in graphics rendering.
8Chromium82uBlock OriginOpen-source Chrome base, slightly less optimized.
9Samsung Internet80uBlock Origin (Android)Fast on mobile, Chromium-based, limited desktop presence.
10UC Browser78Built-inSpeed-focused, but privacy concerns and bloat reduce efficiency.
 
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