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Monkeymatt said:
But before we can do that, we would need to find ways of adapting to these new conditions. I mean the humans who got to Mars would have very little sunlight, which would affect their bodies due to the vitamins. And also the lowered gravity would most likely cause problems with the human body, such as muscle and bone loss.

I'm not certain on the next point, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Mars have no atmosphere? And if so how would we get enough Oxygen to live, grow plants etc?
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We have lights that isn't a problem,
Muscle and bone loss is not a problem, unless you want to come back to earth.
There really isn't any problems other than money and will power.

Mars does have an atmosphere, but a lot thinner than ours and little oxygen. You would have to have greenhouses to provide an atmosphere and to produce oxygen.
 
Monkeymatt said:
I'm not certain on the next point, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Mars have no atmosphere? And if so how would we get enough Oxygen to live, grow plants etc?
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iirc, you send robotic factories to produce large amounts of greenhouse gasses which (there is some atmosphere) heats it up melting the icecaps then you have water you introduce algae etc to produce o2 and so on.
 
Tefal said:
>.<

Lol'd
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Don't have to be like that do you really? I had the decency to admit that I was wrong on that point :rolleyes:


AcidHell2 said:
We have lights that isn't a problem,
Muscle and bone loss is not a problem, unless you want to come back to earth.
There really isn't any problems other than money and will power.

Mars does have an atmosphere, but a lot thinner than ours and little oxygen. You would have to have greenhouses to provide an atmosphere and to produce oxygen.
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Well to set up a base on Mars, we would need to launch a lot of rockets there, and getting it set up would be a nightmare. And then you also have to fire rockets up to sustain this base while they slowly start to make them selves self-self-sufficient. It would be a truely massive project that would require governments and large groups of people to work together, and I just don't think Human kind can do it.

But I'm sure everybody knows that if Humans are going to go permanently live in Space, NASA are going to have to play a key role. China and the East may have more Money than NASA, but their experience and the fact they have put Humans on the Moon will be key. But can NASA, China, India etc. all work together for the one goal of going to Mars? I'm not so sure.

I would like to see Humans on Mars, but the fact is that it would need serious co-operation, The East with the money, and the West with the Experience. But can the two sides put their differences together? If they can, I would say we will be on Mars in 40 years max, if not, I would say 60 years minimum.
 
It's a very large project but not as big as you suggest. Unless your talking about a large society, or a few people it's nit that much. I doubt we will see this happen till we get better versikns if things like asimo ribots. Send a ream of robots and they can build, mine and the like. Make a series of caves to live in.
 
We need a space elevator. Once we have one of those it's essentially free to get up into Earth orbit.

A space elevator is basically just a great big cable to a geostationary satellite. We don't yet have material strong enough for it, but it'll come eventually.
 
Nano carbon tubes looks promising, if they can make them longer, it's one of a vary few which would work in theory. Most materials couldn't even support their own weight, unless the bit in space was killometers long and the bit at earth a few mm.
 
The space elevator is the big thing though. Once it's done then there can be daily space launches. There could be hundreds of people living in space, interplanetary travel would be considerably easier. Visiting Mars would be far less expensive, etc...

But since the space elevator itself is not very exciting people aren't really aware of it, unless you've watched some documentaries.
 
AcidHell2 said:
How can you possibly think like that, we are no more violent than other creatures. if they can travel light years. then they have discovered all the weapons we have and more. By the process of simple physics.
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They may have not taken the same path of discovery we have. Maybe they channelled more into travel and discovery and arn't tribal like humans are. Hence never needed to fight as many wars.

dmpoole said:
You say that as though it's a matter of fact
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We're talking in context of aliens visiting earth. If they wish to take our planet. I don't think it will be such a walkover for them as we expect.
 
robgmun said:
They may have not taken the same path of discovery we have. Maybe they channelled more into travel and discovery and arn't tribal like humans are. Hence never needed to fight as many wars.
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Doesn't matter, if they have the ability to get here reasonably quickly they have the potential to make a weapon once they're were to take us all out in one shot.
 
robgmun said:
They may have not taken the same path of discovery we have. Maybe they channelled more into travel and discovery and arn't tribal like humans are. Hence never needed to fight as many wars.



We're talking in context of aliens visiting earth. If they wish to take our planet. I don't think it will be such a walkover for them as we expect.
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They woukd still have the technology. You can't discover physics and not have the dark sides like nuclear bombs they go hand in hand.
 
robgmun said:
Maybe they channelled more into travel and discovery and arn't tribal like humans are. Hence never needed to fight as many wars
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War and threat of war have always seemed to drive technology, for us as at least.

On the tribal side, we may seem so very backwards to any beings who dont have this very backward system of countries and regions, and if religion is not part of an alien system they would probably just think there is no hope at all for most of this waring vindictive little rock.

Maybe we are all just a cast in an alien reality show, then again im just musing garbage.

TBH, wish the aliens would show up or the nut jubs shut up, as for the 'mainstream' of aliens/mysteries and so on, love reading all about it all.
 
The Halk said:
We need a space elevator. Once we have one of those it's essentially free to get up into Earth orbit.

A space elevator is basically just a great big cable to a geostationary satellite. We don't yet have material strong enough for it, but it'll come eventually.
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Nano tubes seem to be the way forward with this.
 
So, has the big reveal happened yet? Or have our lizard overlords got to WikiLeaks before they could dish the dirt?
 
In my mind there would be no point in terra-forming any planets in our own solar system, other than to test theories and processes.

The whole point of "getting off the planet" would be due to the fact our sun is dying or there is something big incoming.
So we'd have to find a suitable new, younger star in a new as yet undiscovered system.
Until we do, we ain't going anywhere.

I do however believe by then we will have a method of propulsion suitable like an Ion drive or solar sail
 
Scubascorpion said:
The whole point of "getting off the planet" would be due to the fact our sun is dying or there is something big incoming.
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that's 4 billion years away, we'll have spread out looking for more space and more resources by then.


I do however believe by then we will have a method of propulsion suitable like an Ion drive or solar sail
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we have them now, ion drives are already in use and would be useless for any large manned craft, that's not what they're for.
 
We do need to colonise the moon, but preferably Mars.

Most extinction events would be independent of the sun. An extinction event just needs to destroy the bulk of our extelligence and we're back in the dark ages again.

If we have a million or two people living on Moon/Mars then we'll be spanky if the earth goes whoopsie - of course it'd be better if we were at Barnard's Star as well, but one step at a time.
 
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