Will the rog swift get a free sync update?

[andybird123]

Where is Intel in Gsync?

You are just getting silly now sunshine

I never claimed "everyone supports gsync", which is what you are claiming of freesync.
Nvidia have dominant market share in gaming graphics, they dont need intel to support gsync.

 

[Martini1991]

Companies wouldn't be supporting Freesync, they'd be supporting adaptive sync.

 

[andybird123]

Companies wouldn't be supporting Freesync, they'd be supporting adaptive sync.

I know the difference, i was quoting jigger who said "everyone supports freesync except nvidia"

Pedantry aside, at this point adaptive sync is synonymous with freesync because only AMD are supporting adaptive sync on the gpu side, so freesync is currently a requirement to make use of adaptive sync. It makes conversations simpler to just refer to the whole thing as freesync, until anyone other tha amd support it.

 

[Martini1991]

I think the problem is people don't know what they're talking about rather than just being as you explain it

 

[andybird123]

I think the problem is people don't know what they're talking about rather than just being as you explain it

That too.

 

[jigger]

I think the problem is some people are really angry about FreeSync

 

[Martini1991]

No one's angry about Freesync.
But it's not there yet, just rumours about possible monitors getting updates this that and the other.
We'll probably know more at CES, and likelihood is people are buying new monitors, except the a very very select few for Adaptive Sync capability

 

[jigger]

You speak for everyone?

 

[andybird123]

I think the problem is some people are really angry about FreeSync

If that is aimed at me, i'm not angry at all, if it presents competiton and means that adaptive sync type screens become ubiquitous and lower cost, then as a consumer I am all for it.

What i am not going to do though is proclaim it is a slam dunk on the basis of faulty assumptions and wishful thinking.

I don't know how many different ways you can ignore what i'm actually saying which is to err on the side of caution. Significant challenges are present in the adoption of adaptive sync, many of which i've highlighted, that does not mean they are insurmountable.

I havent counted freesync out just yet, but if I see someone posting blatantly false information like "all monitors will support freesync", then I am going to respond to ask them to back that up with actual information, because AMD themselves say that isnt true.

 

[jigger]

Then why ask me for details, let me type out everything I have been able to put together for your benefit and then blow it off with what about Intel. I'm sorry but my gut tells me you are angry.

 

[jigger]

Anyway, I'm very angry about FreeSync. I've had a stack of cash sat around waiting for a 3440x1440 or 3880x2160 IPS or VA FreeSync monitor *WITH NO LIGHT BLEED OcUK* for months.

 

[spoffle]

I like your optimism - by the time freesync sees the light of day no doubt nVidia will have dreamed up GSYNC 2.0 with some new killer feature.

New killer feature? What, even more sync? If it deviates from synchronisation then it's not really a "gsync" feature.

The Emperor's new clothes comes to mind here.

 

[andybird123]

Then why ask me for details, let me type out everything I have been able to put together for your benefit and then blow if it with what about Intel. I'm sorry but my gut tells me you are angry.

I asked for links, i didnt ask you to type anything. You said things about free sync being supported by all, and by monitors that have been shipping for 6 months already "confirmed"... 4 of the things you had written were not true, so i wondered where you had gotten that assumption from. The info you posted confirmed that you were working from faulty assumptions or info that has been deprecated, unless you want to go back and provide the links.

I've mentioned intel several times in this thread, i did not suddenly try to trip you up by mentioning them out of the blue. Intel supporting adaptive sync would be a major plus for it and greatly improves its chance of becoming an actual industry sandard.

Again, all I can say is that I hope freesync does well and that Nvidia do add support for vesa adaptive sync, however based on past performance and current information I see this as being unlikely.

 

[jigger]

Limited range of gpus for gsync?
The entire 6/7/9 ranges

Freesync is supported by... the 290/x 285 and 260/x but not the 280s or 270s, so half a single generation vs 3 full gens

Yeah, much wider range that is

This was your response to my post. Nothing about false info Angrybird

 

[Rroff]

Again, all I can say is that I hope freesync does well and that Nvidia do add support for vesa adaptive sync, however based on past performance and current information I see this as being unlikely.

It would be a great PR win though and they have a budget for doing just that kind of things at the moment - never say never (EDIT: Not that you were).

 

[andybird123]

But we now know for sure that monitors have been shipping for the past 6~ months that are already able to use FreeSync. The big scalers makers are all adding the tech by default and all AMD cards from now on will make use of the scalers. FreeSync is getting supported by everyone expect NV

Links to back any of that up?
AMD themselves say that isn't the case on their own Faq, which i've posted above. Yes scaler makers are releasing scalers but not "by default", they are seperate products that require the panels to be specially qualified to work with adaptive sync, which all costs extra to implement, it simply isnt going to be included in every monitor and AMD themselves highlight this on their own website.

The only monitor that had been listed up as being backwards compatible was the iiyama 4k and that claim has now been rescinded, it might get reinstated, but again erring on the side of caution I would not automatically assume that.

You are working from a set of false assumptions.

Where is the announcement that intel are supporting adaptive sync?

AMDs future GPU's supporting it is irrelevant until and unless they outsell nvidia, which also doesnt seem likely based on past results.

No, this is what I was referring to. You posted to say that monitors have been shipping for 6 months with freesync support, that all scaler makers were adding freesync "by default" and that "everyone except nvidia" were supporting freesync

I asked for links as all of these seemed like assumptions rather than confirmed facts.

 

[jigger]

Thats all correct.

You have the details you need. Go read although the links on the internet could be lies so it's probably best if you just dismiss them too.

 

[andybird123]

It would be a great PR win though and they have a budget for doing just that kind of things at the moment - never say never (EDIT: Not that you were).

The one thing, looking at past performance, is that Nvidia did support generic 3d via 3dtvplay, but that didnt stop generic 3d monitors from dying out... So even if nvidia do support adaptive sync, nvidia owners are still more likely to buy a gsync monitor (because it also has 3D and ulmb, plus any other features they add), so even that may not save adaptive sync

 

[jigger]

3D has died 10 times over. It's down to the fact thats it crap and always will be.

 

[andybird123]

Thats all correct.

You have the details you need. Go read although the links on the internet could be lies so it's probably best if you just dismiss them too.

I've already checked and posted the corrected information for you.

Iiyama have pulled the info about the 4K, nex have never said they will post a firmware update - their monitor was used for a demo and some people on forums have assumed a firmware update will be coming

Some scaler makers have announced they will release scalers that support adaptive synv, Not that they are adding it to their entire range by default, AMD say that it is not financially possible to add adaptive sync to EVERY monitor, only premium priced ones

Define "everyone"... Looking at the three main gpu manufacturers only one of the three have announced support, and not "every" monitor manufacturer has

So all three of your statements are factually incorrect as it stands today.