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Will you be ditching your 980 TI\TX for Pascal?

I still don't believe the 1070 will be faster than a 980ti, maybe an overclocked 1070 will equal a stock 980ti at 1080p.

I would say the resale value of the 980ti depends on how close the 1070 is in performance, the 1080 will obviously be faster but also is in a different bracket.

The 1070 has 25% less cores than the 1080 and also standard 256 bit GDDR5, so that will be 25% slower than 1080 at least. 1080 at 1860mhz in the 3dmark leak was 8-10% faster than OC 980ti.

why would huan say the 1070 is faster than the TitanX then ? my guess if it's not slightly better it should trade blows with it, and he cannot be talking about OC 1070, that would be straight out lies not even PR spin, and also 1070 should be roughly 20% slower than the 1080, assuming 5% loss of cores effciency and driver work.
so if you put it 10% under the 980Ti that means the 1080 is only 10% over the 980Ti, that would make pascal a complete utter failure.
 
why should people be gullible when that guy in the nvidia presentation is directly saying that a 1080 is twice the gpu as a Titan x

this is a presentation shown to the world, i dont think they are lying when thousands of engineers and scientist made this card and spending millions over 3 years of development....

Don't be daft, they started by saying it was comparable to a 980sli, remember real world SLI is not 100% you are lucky to get 50%-70% use out of the 2nd card.

The lies were then added to make it all seem amazing by stating these fictional numbers of 2x the titan x and 3x the efficiency ... Impossible with the amount of cores and die shrink the the 1080 has.



I'm starting to think a lot of you on here are just trolling now... Logic has gone out of the window.


I'm also shocked that some have not been banned yet. I thought the 3 strike rule was in place on the forum...



Anyways not replying anymore till real benchmarks come out and the silly people on here stop their stupidity, you know who you are...
 
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It's only in certain situations, probably a lot to do with DX12 optimisation imo. Expect generally a 25% increase over a TX :)

I would be surprised if the 1080 is 25% faster than a TX, but I might be wrong and we will see when the reviews go online.
 
why would huan say the 1070 is faster than the TitanX then ? my guess if it's not slightly better it should trade blows with it, and he cannot be talking about OC 1070, that would be straight out lies not even PR spin, and also 1070 should be roughly 20% slower than the 1080, assuming 5% loss of cores effciency and driver work.
so if you put it 10% under the 980Ti that means the 1080 is only 10% over the 980Ti, that would make pascal a complete utter failure.

Did he say that? I don't know, but it is marketing event to make them sound as good as possible, could be VR, could be 1080p, I don't know, but I will believe it when I see the reviews.

Your maths does not add up, I said the leak of the 1080 at 1860mhz (8% overclock), is 8-10% faster than overclocked 980ti. So with the 1080 max overclock it would probably be 20% faster than OC 980ti, then add the fact that the 1070 has 25% less cores and normal 256bit GDDR5, it will be at least 25% slower than the 1080 especially above 1080p.

It could be that the 1070 is faster than a titan X, when using the new VR technologies that lower the resolution at the edges of the screen etc. could be pretty much anything! I remember the fury X in the slides it beat the 980ti in everything according to AMD, and they said it was an "overclockers dream", I believe the 1080 will OC though as they showed it at 2.1Ghz.
 
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why should people be gullible when that guy in the nvidia presentation is directly saying that a 1080 is twice the gpu as a Titan x

this is a presentation shown to the world, i dont think they are lying when thousands of engineers and scientist made this card and spending millions over 3 years of development....

well they did, but technically they didnt, he just ommit saying key stuff.
like instead of saying 1080 is 20% faster than TitanX in general, but in VR games using projection we can save up to 60% compute.
he says 1080is 2xTitanX performance, and put a slide behind with a vertical line in small font saying "relative to VR games"
it's up to you to put 1 and 1 together, and for fanboys that cannot put 1 and 1 together to have an orgasm, like that chick that kept yelling all event long...sheesh
 
well they did, but technically they didnt, he just ommit saying key stuff.
like instead of saying 1080 is 20% faster than TitanX in general, but in VR games using projection we can save up to 60% compute.
he says 1080is 2xTitanX performance, and put a slide behind with a vertical line in small font saying "relative to VR games"
it's up to you to put 1 and 1 together

This^

A good example would be that the original Titan is really 3x or 4x faster the TX which replaced it, because the older card is way better at compute stuff.

We need to wait for proper reviews to find out the strengths and weaknesses.
 
Did he say that?

you tell me, you can skip to 3min50 when he talks about 1070 being faster than titanX, there is no word spinning or slides, it's a straight forward statement of the 1070 being faster than TitanX, so there is no way it would be slower, worst case scenario is trading blows as i said, then 1080 20% faster.
if you see when he talks at the beggining about the 1080 being 2XTitanX, he talks about craftsmanship, and projection, then goes on to say it's 2xTitanX, without letting you know that this performance is for projection used in VR, but the slide and his mention of projection without specifying it was for those results, he legaly protects his back from false advertisment, and it's not the case for 1070/TitanX statement.
 
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I will go as far as to say.... YOU CAN HAVE MY 980TI.... if the 1080 turns out to be twice the speed of a titan X in normal games at 3440x1440.


THINK ABOUT WHAT HE IS SAYING....

TWICE THE POWER OF TITAN X WITH 3 TIMES THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY.

So the 1080 is going to run GTA V maxed out 3440x1440 at 100fps while using 100 watts?????????
 
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Luke from LinusTechTips was there. video at 5:06 that he said that he asked them after the event and been told that 1080 is 25% faster Titan X in general use.

 
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Luke from LinusTechTips was there. video at 5:06 that he said that he asked them after the event and been told that 1080 is 25% faster Titan X in general use.


Could be but the titan x default speeds are a lot lower than most custom 980ti and a default titan x loses to all of the custom 980ti.

We will see when the reviews come out...

My prediction is that OC 1080 vs OC 980ti will be 20-25% faster and that OC 1070 will be as fast as a reference 980ti or maybe as fast as a custom / OC 980ti.
 
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I remember the fury X in the slides it beat the 980ti in everything according to AMD, and they said it was an "overclockers dream "

they said that with slides behind at 4K resolution, and at 4K they did beat it in quiet few games, even during release when the drivers sucked, so it was losing most 1080p/1440p benchs, but was trading blows at 4k, they protected their back from false advertisment too.
and about overclocking dream, if you go back, he was talking about the PCB design being able to handle overclock, he didnt say the chip was going to overclock like a dream.
the devil is in the details :D
 
they said that with slides behind at 4K resolution, and at 4K they did beat it in quiet few games, even during release when the drivers sucked, so it was losing most 1080p/1440p benchs, but was trading blows at 4k, they protected their back from false advertisment too.
and about overclocking dream, if you go back, he was talking about the PCB design being able to handle overclock, he didnt say the chip was going to overclock like a dream.
the devil is in the details :D

Well yes that is exactly my point.... and the fury x did not turn out as good as it appeared in those slides.
 
Have none of you looked at the performance chart on the NVIDIA site for the 1080?
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/1...=Campaign-Pascal-GTX-1080-Q1-Owned-Web-Banner
They are clearly not claiming there is 2x performance for conventional actual games. And that chart bases the comparison on the 980, not even 980ti.

Its just all weird marketing numbers I do not believe it until I see reviews, the only thing I remotely believe is the leaked 3dmark result but that could be fake as well.

But he said in the video is "1080 is twice the performance of a titan X and 3x the efficiency" That statement alone should be enough for you to not believe any of it until you see benchmarks in reviews.
 
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Have none of you looked at the performance chart on the NVIDIA site for the 1080?
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/1...=Campaign-Pascal-GTX-1080-Q1-Owned-Web-Banner
They are clearly not claiming there is 2x performance for conventional actual games. And that chart bases the comparison on the 980, not even 980ti.

the argument here isnt about that, it's about 1070 being faster than TitanX or not, because he said the 1070 is slower than TitanX, and i brought the video to show him that huan said point blank 1070 is faster than TitanX, so to me at the very least is should trade blows with it, but cannot be constantly slower, that would make huan a liar, not PR or marketing tactic.
 
its all marketing . 1070 is faster than Titan X yes but he did not say it clear that its in VR. ( its the same when he kept saying that 1080 is twice as fast as Titan X but forgot to mention about VR )
 
the argument here isnt about that, it's about 1070 being faster than TitanX or not, because he said the 1070 is slower than TitanX, and i brought the video to show him that huan said point blank 1070 is faster than TitanX, so to me at the very least is should trade blows with it, but cannot be constantly slower, that would make huan a liar, not PR or marketing tactic.

yes but he also said the 1080 is twice the speed of a titan X and 3 x the efficiency, Yes this is some news for you, they literally make stuff up, well not completely make it up, but it is so out of context it may as well be made up compared to what you will see in review benchmarks. anyway I have had enough now so I am going to do something else lol :D
 
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I don't know anymore than you guys (actually probably a fair bit less) but if the 1070 is faster than a titan x (maybe, maybe not) then why not show something that proved it, instead of all this confusing 'when using a vr'. Why not just put up some proper benchmarks?
 
yes but he also said the 1080 is twice the speed of a titan X and 3 x the efficiency, Yes this is some news for you, they literally make stuff up, well not completely make it up, but it is so out of context it may as well be made up compared to what you will see in review benchmarks. anyway I have had enough now so I am going to do something else lol :D

yes and i explained the difference, for the 1080 thing, he puts a context, he doesnt have to put it in context for you, he puts a slide behind him and say what he wants it's for you to link his words to the slide, this is legal PR deceit.
but on the 1070, there was no context no slide nothing for you to link to his words to come up with a different conclusion, it was a simple and direct with no wiggle room 1070 faster than TitanX, if it's not true, nvidia is liable for false advertisment, therefor it has to be true.
 
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