Windermere sewage = sickening

The regulators are EX employees of the water companies or parent-owning group of the water companies. They are doing their job just fine.........................................................
 
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A2Z said:
Why just tourists? I wouldn't drink tap water here if you paid me. Never have and never will, thought it was common knowledge to not drink tap water in the UK.

I literally do not know one person that drinks water straight from the tap, absolutely disgusting. Either bottled, or filtered.
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You won't drink tap water? Explains a lot. Keep drinking that kool-aid dude.

E: My bad, you're in London? That is a cesspit I guess.
 
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We have had a lot of dead fish in our rivers recently so wouldn't surprise me if Anglian water were up to dirty tricks either.

www.bbc.co.uk

Boston: 'Significant' number of dead fish in waterway

Various species were found dead or in distress in the Maud Foster drain in Boston.
www.bbc.co.uk

An agricultural firm got fined half a million last year for leaking chemical in the river but the water companies seem to get away Scott free.
 
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I'm amazed that there isn't some kind of "Environmental Damage" law which can be used to criminally prosecute the individuals directly involved in actions or decisions which enabled the damage to occur, but also CEO's as well for allowing their company to commit an offence. It'd also be nice to fine the companies upto 75% of their pre-tax profit etc.

Ah well, it is but a pipe dream I guess.
 
We were mad to allow water companies to be privatised. This is what happens when paying out shareholders is put above everything else. The public are going to have to pick up the tab soon and these criminals will have got away with it.
 
Had to laugh at the tory MP in devon empathizing with crypto sufferers - won't that outbreak be linked with poor maintenance ?
... the coast there are already unable to keep the shellfish happy, whose next
 
Teknobry said:
It's horrific that they can make such high profits, pay dividends and crazy exec salaries yet under
Perform so badly.
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That depends on the intent. It's a for-profit organisation, so its purpose is to funnel as much money as possible into the hands of as few people as possible. So it's performing extremely well as intended.

I think the intention is fundamentally wrong. Its purpose should be to provide a service to many, not more money to few.

I think every service necessary to civilisation should be nationalised. All power. All water supply and waste treatment. All education. All law. All public transport. Preferably using the Norwegian model. It's not a coincidence that Norway is fabulously wealthy with an extremely high average standard of living. Part of that is national resources, but part is the way things are run.
 
I totally agree with you but also we have to be wary of rose tinted specs. My dad was a builder back in the day and he did some external contracting for the waterboard as was on occasion and he was absolutely horrified at the awful way it was run.
when he was working with their actual employed staff they wasted £1000s, either by being disorganised sending people off to a job miles away without the gear needed, then coming back to get the gear, or over staffing tiny jobs which should have taken a few hrs taking a day, or at the end of a job instead of bringing back unused perfectly good materials worth money, chucking in a skip.

I have to believe it is possible to have a well run nationalised company..... but ours were.not (my dad also heard similar stories from those working on rail lines as well but it was the waterboard he had 1st hand experience of.

so yes I think it should all be nationalised but at the same time they need to be run properly just that any profits go into the government coffers (hopefully to be ploughed into the infrastructure) and not shareholders.
 
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Times change, I'd like to think with the way technology has moved on, public companies would run much better now.

Anytime the government have been handed back (or taken over) the trains franchises, they have made profit and run well.
 
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The government would need to borrow i.e create debt to invest in the infrastructure just like private companies do and we all know raising more government debt is a tricky subject right now. I just dont see a world in which government invests the required funds into water over say the NHS or tax cut bribes.
 
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The government would need to borrow i.e create debt to invest in the infrastructure just like private companies do and we all know raising more government debt is a tricky subject right now. I just dont see a world in which government invests the required funds into water over say the NHS or tax cut bribes.
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That is why the only way we will get the money is to start taxing the really rich who leeched all this money in the first place but that will never happen in my life time.
 
On the topic of water companies and their insatiable greed.

www.bbc.co.uk

Severn Trent boss defends multi-million pay packet despite sewage spills

The water firm made 60,000 sewage spills last year but insists river quality is improving.
www.bbc.co.uk

£3.2 million a year and £13 million for the last 4 years.

I'm sorry, but no one deserves that amount of money as a salary. It's absurd.

I mean what does she even do day to day? It's so ridiculous.
 
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There are 3 solutions to this issue:


- Water companes close down every CSO and stop spilling into waterways. The resulting blockages, from all the stupid stuff people put down the sewers, will back up and spill out directly into your homes.
- Water companies close CSOs and spend more time jetting out all the stupid stuff people put down there. Bills increase dramatically, but at least the waterways will be clean(er).
- Water companies continue to use the CSOs, while you enjoy your comparative lower bills.

Of course, you could always renationalise the industry, which means you'll be complaining about paying higher bills to the government instead, but likely not be seeing as much in the way of improvement to the service....
 
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