Windows 10 is it the worst ever version ?

Rroff said:
Strictly in the realm of conspiracy - but if you take the assumption MS has some malicious intent for the sake of argument there is nothing to stop them sniffing around on local HDDs and logged in network drives if such a feature existed in the code - the OS already has low level control over disc access and networking.

Not that 10 is any different in that regard than previous operating systems - even with 7, 98, etc. you have to take it on faith there aren't "backdoors", etc. (highly unlikely they wouldn't be discovered in the long run if there were though) - aside from the wording of the terms and conditions in 10 "could" be used to give themselves wider powers.
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Yeah but the massive uproar isn't about what isn't in the EULA, but rather a massive (probably deliberate) misinterpretation of what is clearly stated in the EULA.

If your concerned about what Microsoft may be doing that they aren't telling anyone then that's a whole different kettle of tin foil hatted fish that goes beyond just Windows 10 and into a discussion covering every digital services provider globally.
 
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I'm looking to upgrade soon, but because of time constrictions I'm resigned to the "wait and see" demographic, making sure to avoid the post-launch issues to ensure when I do switch its hassle free.

Whats the situation with automatic updates?

I'm going out on a limb and assuming we can disable them outright via running services.msc (and stopping the process there) but I was thinking something a bit less heavy handed, like being able to specify when my system looks for/downloads/installs them.. especially when users are reporting drivers being downloaded despite specifying in hardware settings not to do so.

Or is this just a simple case of picking up win 10 pro rather than home
 
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I have installed Windows 10 and have paid almost no attention to it because:

I use Photoshop
I use Lightroom
I use Chrome
I play the odd game.

The OS is a layer that everything else runs on, I have better things to do than poke around looking for problems.

In all the years I have been running Windows the only thing I ever really change is the desktop wallpaper.
 
I like Windows 10 very much.

Each to your own I guess, but I feel that is is better than Windows 7, and miles better than Windows 8.

Much more fluid, and just 'works' thus far for me.
 
OldCoals said:
I have installed Windows 10 and have paid almost no attention to it because:

I use Photoshop
I use Lightroom
I use Chrome
I play the odd game.

The OS is a layer that everything else runs on, I have better things to do than poke around looking for problems.

In all the years I have been running Windows the only thing I ever really change is the desktop wallpaper.
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Absolutely

As far as x86 computing goes, Windows is the graphical interface to avoid using or remembering command line instructions in DOS. It does a few more automated things now with hardware and software. But it is still just an interface between the user, the software and the machine
 
deuse said:
When the data is in the USA they can get a warrant in the USA in a blink of an eye. No need to ask the UK.




Win 10 was trying to access my NAS but I caught it in time. Hardware FW are great :)


Anyway I hope you guys have fun with win 10. By 2020 I'll be on a beach in Florida ;)
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You get more spyware when you leave your house, I hope you are invisible out and about, don't forget your tin foil hat and faraday cage ;) .


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Seriously I think you are worrying over nothing.

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The nazis also had sympathiser/deniers and look how that ended up.

While i dont consider Nadella as the führer (yet), this image does unintentionly provide a nice caveat.

I will return to this point later.



Once your information is collated and filed - thats it - its out there. Microsoft may or may not be the bad boys of this affair (by openly declaring their intentions in EULAs with a surprising lack of lawyer speak) in stating what is going on. I suspect they may even have been "encouraged" by higher powers to insert the spyware.

What's to say MS fails at somepoint in the future? Or is taken over by another entity whose intentions are less credible: who take all that data of yours along for a ride..


Back to my WW2 point.

In the inter-war period the dutch civil service was amongst the best in the world.

Seriously, these guys dropped the C from Canal and put the word in front of retentive.

By the 1940s they had accrued substantial information on every Dutch national.

This proved rather convenient when the nazis rolled into town; and was the reason why less than 25% of all dutch Jews survived (highest percentage toll of all european states i believe).
 
shot2pi3ces said:
The nazis also had sympathiser/deniers and look how that ended up.

While i dont consider Nadella as the führer (yet), this image does unintentionly provide a nice caveat.

I will return to this point later.



Once your information is collated and filed - thats it - its out there. Microsoft may or may not be the bad boys of this affair (by openly declaring their intentions in EULAs with a surprising lack of lawyer speak) in stating what is going on. I suspect they may even have been "encouraged" by higher powers to insert the spyware.

What's to say MS fails at somepoint in the future? Or is taken over by another entity whose intentions are less credible: who take all that data of yours along for a ride..


Back to my WW2 point.

In the inter-war period the dutch civil service was amongst the best in the world.

Seriously, these guys dropped the C from Canal and put the word in front of retentive.

By the 1940s they had accrued substantial information on every Dutch national.

This proved rather convenient when the nazis rolled into town; and was the reason why less than 25% of all dutch Jews survived (highest percentage toll of all european states i believe).
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I can't wait for the replies that completely miss the analogical sense of your post.
 
shot2pi3ces said:
The nazis also had sympathiser/deniers and look how that ended up.

While i dont consider Nadella as the führer (yet), this image does unintentionly provide a nice caveat.

I will return to this point later.



Once your information is collated and filed - thats it - its out there. Microsoft may or may not be the bad boys of this affair (by openly declaring their intentions in EULAs with a surprising lack of lawyer speak) in stating what is going on. I suspect they may even have been "encouraged" by higher powers to insert the spyware.

What's to say MS fails at somepoint in the future? Or is taken over by another entity whose intentions are less credible: who take all that data of yours along for a ride..


Back to my WW2 point.

In the inter-war period the dutch civil service was amongst the best in the world.

Seriously, these guys dropped the C from Canal and put the word in front of retentive.

By the 1940s they had accrued substantial information on every Dutch national.

This proved rather convenient when the nazis rolled into town; and was the reason why less than 25% of all dutch Jews survived (highest percentage toll of all european states i believe).
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Is this a situation unique to Windows 10, or Microsoft?

In a world where a technology company could be bought out in order to abuse your information, I'd think Microsoft is quite a long way from the top of the list of companies to be concerned about.
 
deuse said:
When the data is in the USA they can get a warrant in the USA in a blink of an eye. No need to ask the UK.




Win 10 was trying to access my NAS but I caught it in time. Hardware FW are great :)


Anyway I hope you guys have fun with win 10. By 2020 I'll be on a beach in Florida ;)
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Erm no, they don't need any warrants whatsoever. That's why the Snowden revelations were so important. It revealed the very method they use to mine data on home citizens by proxy, negating the need for warrants.
 
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asim18 said:
Erm no, they don't need any warrants whatsoever. That's why the Snowden revelations were so important. It revealed the very method they use to mine data on home citizens by proxy, negating the need for warrants.
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True in most parts. :)

But the USA gov want data from the irish servers and that's why MS have gone to court over it. They will lose.

But now win 10 sends the data to Redmond(USA) so now there is no need to get any warrants for data from any win 10 machine.

On a side note the USA gov can use the FISA 702 or Executive Order 12333 on MS if they wanted to.
 
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