Windows 10

leigh_boy · 26 Jun 2015 at 13:13

Skeeter said:
Then you can't (legally) transfer the license to another machine anyway, regardless of SSD swapping or clean install.

fixed

mattoxx · 26 Jun 2015 at 13:26

Skeeter said:
Windows 10 marks a complete shift in how Microsoft will manage and distribute OSs from now on, and the upgrade is a way to get off the legacy format and onto the new format for free.

Not taking the upgrade your would be very foolish.

In that case I am on the board

Skeeter · 26 Jun 2015 at 13:57

mattoxx said:
In that case I am on the board

Don't rush in if your in any way concerned through. You have until July 2016 to take the upgrade so theres no rush.

mattoxx · 26 Jun 2015 at 15:01

I just checked some vids and it looks amazing.

Gentwee · 26 Jun 2015 at 21:05

Has only one tried running the preview on older hardware?

Ive got an Atom 330 (nvidia ion based) 1.6ghz and it just runs dog slow and is unusable. Windows 8 however worked just fine.

deuse · 26 Jun 2015 at 21:45

"Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro (whether free or paid) will be forced to install every feature, patch and fix Microsoft throws at them or have their security updates cut off."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/06/26/free-windows-10-upgrades-danger/

Not good at all.

cactusweasel · 26 Jun 2015 at 21:58

if I have a retail version of windows 7 or 8, and I upgrade to 10, can I in theory sell windows 10 at a later date? (if I give them the win7 and 8 licenses too?) or does the free upgrade turn it into an OEM type thing?

kayomani · 26 Jun 2015 at 22:01

In reality would you actually turn off windows updates?

If windows 10 is truly the last windows version then they'll sell effectively dlcs and you'll not get them automatically as they'll not be free.

opethdisciple · 26 Jun 2015 at 22:16

deuse said:
"Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro (whether free or paid) will be forced to install every feature, patch and fix Microsoft throws at them or have their security updates cut off."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/06/26/free-windows-10-upgrades-danger/

Not good at all.

There is a really obvious reason why they are doing this tho. That is to really minimize the amount of unpatched unprotected windows machines out in the wild.

cactusweasel · 27 Jun 2015 at 00:47

I don't see why you should turn it off, or not install updates.

With the except of driver installs... GFX drivers springs to mind.

MagicBoy · 27 Jun 2015 at 00:54

deuse said:
"Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro (whether free or paid) will be forced to install every feature, patch and fix Microsoft throws at them or have their security updates cut off."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/06/26/free-windows-10-upgrades-danger/

Not good at all.

Why, what's the issue?

cactusweasel · 27 Jun 2015 at 01:01

people complain for the sake of it sometimes

Neil79 · 27 Jun 2015 at 01:01

MagicBoy said:
Why, what's the issue?

When they automatically update everyone's system with a borked update, which then becomes a MAJOR issue

MagicBoy · 27 Jun 2015 at 01:09

That's a very rare event. I've known it happen just once, which given the variety of hardware out there is damn near astounding.

Apple have had more borked updates in the last 6 months!

FloppyPoppy · 27 Jun 2015 at 01:19

Hey guys are there any known issues running windows 10 preview 10130 with x99?

cheers

Harry

Skeeter · 27 Jun 2015 at 01:38

cactusweasel said:
people complain for the sake of it sometimes

Meet deuse. That's basically all he does.

Neil79 said:
When they automatically update everyone's system with a borked update, which then becomes a MAJOR issue

Which they have mitigated by having millions of people testing on millions of hardware comfigs before they get rolled out.

cactusweasel · 27 Jun 2015 at 01:59

nobody complains about steams auto patching, how is this any different?

Rroff · 27 Jun 2015 at 02:03

cactusweasel said:
nobody complains about steams auto patching, how is this any different?

Steam updates if things screw up don't take your entire OS environment with it (hopefully) and you also have some control over it to a degree.

With windows I manually install updates and have control over when it does anything like that so that it doesn't interfere with what I'm doing, etc. and sometimes have had to not install individual updates due to issues.

I certainly won't be updating to a version of Windows that automatically installs updates and neither am I going to hurry to move on from my current Windows 7 install to something that looks like it stepped back into 1992 visually.

Skeeter · 27 Jun 2015 at 02:12

Has anyone actually bothered to read the article? You can delay Pro by up to 4 months, and WSUS by a further 4 months.

If your still refusing to install security patches after that time due to "not being in control", your just being deliberately difficult for the sake of it.

Rroff · 27 Jun 2015 at 02:25

Skeeter said:
Has anyone actually bothered to read the article? You can delay Pro by up to 4 months, and WSUS by a further 4 months.

If your still refusing to install security patches after that time due to "not being in control", your just being deliberately difficult for the sake of it.

And if there is an update that has a compatibility issue with your specific setup (i.e. works for say 95% of people but messes things up for another 5%) what then? (which is something I've run into not completely infrequently).

EDIT: And I know this is a beta and all but its pretty much what Windows 8 looks like so I don't have high hopes... the Windows 10 UI is pitiful graphically (recycle bin on the left and the 2 windows on the right from my Windows 7 install for comparison).

EDIT2: I had high hopes for Windows 10 but the reality so far is a hideous abortion of an OS and people need to take off the rose tinted spectacles and see it for what it is - I wonder sometimes if people posting in this thread have no experience of OSes older than Windows 7.