Windows 10

I mean the OS is garbage - I'm not just saying it is a crappy product to flame/troll:

-File Explorer looks like the product of "what if we let 1000 monkeys play in Visual Studio" has no nice little quality of life updates like listing currently open folders in a section of the navigation pane for quick drag and drop operations, etc.

-Start menu doesn't even have proper group management features in 2021!!! (I mean even Windows 3.x managed that) never mind it falls woefully short of its potential - it should be fully scalable in a dynamic manner from a simple text menu/dynamic search through to something akin to the Android home screen in menu form or full screen menu for those who prefer that.

-UI and settings and much of that layer in general is still a fragmented mess and just looks like arse aesthetically - I actually find it quite an eye sore after a fairly short time of using it - even Windows 95 has a more complementary look.

-They can't even manage to make a decent store eco-system incorporating legacy programs, etc. under a unified app repository system - just about every other store type system out there takes a huge dump on MS's efforts. In this day and age that should be the go to for everything - not downloading programs randomly off the internet - and definitely not something most people go out of their way to avoid even.

-Forcing new features/changes on people that you have to go all through the motions of setting up just to then disable because no one wants them - related to that all the problems with things not working reliably as intended such as the Welcome to Windows screen not infrequently reappearing on start up even if you've previously gone through it and then unticked it in notifications.

-Not infrequently maintenance and system processes will get busy in the background making things like benchmarking a pain and can cause things like intermittent stutter or audio glitches while you have something else in the foreground like a game.

-Seem to have forgotten that the purpose of an OS is to enable the end user.

-Windows as a service model falls woefully short of what that should be and connected to that is seriously lacking when it comes to a good range of deployment options, modularisation and/or customisation of installed components, etc. depending on what you want to use the OS for.

-Too many aspects of the OS still suffer from a lowest common denominator approach i.e. designed so they'd work on Windows Mobile even when that was to the detriment of the quality of life experience on the desktop, etc. instead of being a best effort implementation for each platform using some kind of abstracted back end for the data underpinning a feature and a different frontend that interprets and presents it in the best way for the platform.

And I could go on and on...
 
Unbelievable, they're saying the 5001649s been pulled as well now, erm nope, when mine auto searched this morning, when i had the 5001567 sitting there again as the optional, that disappeared again, and the 5001649 replaced it, again!.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Unbelievable, they're saying the 5001649s been pulled as well now, erm nope, when mine auto searched this morning, when i had the 5001567 sitting there again as the optional, that disappeared again, and the 5001649 replaced it, again!.
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Really not good if you are using Windows 10 in a small business, etc. which likely won't be using LTSC, etc. where those updates could have a big impact.
 
Rroff said:
Really not good if you are using Windows 10 in a small business, etc. which likely won't be using LTSC, etc. where those updates could have a big impact.
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I've upgraded my old Laptop to Windows 10 from Windows 7. I entered a product key that I *think* is from this laptop, but it could be from any number of Windows 7 devices I've had over the last decade.

I've now got, I think, 3 Windows 10 devices with three different product keys, all linked to one Microsoft Account. At least I have three activated Windows 10 devices at home. Is there any way I can check what those three keys are on like an account page or something?
 
I was in my driving sim, and the game froze as if it were paused. I took my VR headset off and saw a fresh windows update icon in the bottom right of my desktop monitor. Almost simultaneously, I heard the sim restart and got my headset on just in time to crash into a wall.

I know it doesn't have to be this way because I still have 7 on my old rig.

Windows 10 is basically the Brawndo energy drink from Idiocracy. It screws stuff up but it's better than 7 because 7 didn't have "ELECTROLYTES!"
 
Is why my 2 main systems are still on 7 - it doesn't happen that often but even infrequently just isn't good enough.

One of the reasons I complain about it a lot because sooner or later I'm going to have to ditch 7 and some of the stuff I do I could potentially lose hours of effort, etc. to Windows 10 doing its thing.
 
And some more fun and games with Windows 10 - pulled out laptop last night for work today which hadn't been used since I last did updates on it 123 days ago according to the updates screen - had about 3 hours so thought I'd get it updated to prevent any annoyances... nope - after spending about an hour messing about it had installed 1 update and another dozen sat there saying something about a problem with another update in process and it would retry later with a retry button - no amount of rebooting or troubleshooter would solve it and couldn't just leave it in that state as the updates were periodically retrying and failing causing the system to become busy while they did - eventually it decided to pop up a section on the updates screen with the option to download and install 20H2 (the other updates still sitting there failed/retrying) but by that time I'd run out of time and had to pull a backup system out which wasn't ideal but workable.

Gonna leave it going with 20H2 installing see what fun and games that produces. Oh and I bet once it is done I get that ******* Welcome to Windows screen and have to mess about with whatever it wants me to go through :s

Really not acceptable behaviour from an OS.

EDIT: 3 hours later updated to 20H2 - took its time but no further issues so far this time. (There was about 30 minutes in there where it was waiting on me to restart and I ignored it).
 
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@Rroff you make some excellent points. I’ve grown to really dislike Windows 10. I only use it because I have to. If I could play all of my games on Ubuntu or macOS then I would. Sadly it’s not possible.
 
james.miller said:
I'm on insider builds like I don't even experience most of the stuff you guys seem to have issues with.


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^^ got some new icons too. lol.
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My usage is a bit atypical which tends to expose the problems more - I have multiple systems of all types with varied usage, live very irregular hours, probably do a far wider range of things with my systems than many do from game modding to streaming, programming, electronics design, various 3D printing related, etc. as well as general desktop use and stuff for work - but don't do any one of those specifically so don't have a dedicated setup.

Windows 10 is just completely lacking and problematic as an OS in these circumstances.
 
james.miller said:
I'm on insider builds like I don't even experience most of the stuff you guys seem to have issues with.
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I'm on stable builds but I don't get any of this either. Things work at home and things have worked at work since I started migrating in 2016. I don't doubt what others are saying, but I do sometimes wonder what some of them are doing to or removing from their systems if they keep encountering so many issues.

Windows 10 isn't perfect by any means, but it's countless times better than 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista and 8, in any usage case. It isn't Windows 7, but no amount of moaning is going to change that and it's getting quite depressing seeing the same groans day after day.

I'm starting to worry about Rroff's mental health.
 
Personally I'd disagree it's better than 8. The only 'real' issue with 8 (for some) was the lack of a start menu. I wasn't afflicted with that hate so found Windows 8 to be rather a good OS. Windows 10, on the other hand, is the reason Linux is now my primary OS.
 
Infidelus said:
Personally I'd disagree it's better than 8. The only 'real' issue with 8 (for some) was the lack of a start menu. I wasn't afflicted with that hate so found Windows 8 to be rather a good OS. Windows 10, on the other hand, is the reason Linux is now my primary OS.
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Windows 8 was fine for some but it was an absolute car crash for the majority in providing zero assistance to those who weren't technically minded, instead trying to force people onto the Microsoft Store in the hope it would encourage companies into making Windows Phone compatible apps.
 
From memory (as I did have an 8 license) it was the tile menu and touch screen exploration catering for the tablets/surface products that made it negative. I found it to be a breeze to use personally but supporting hundreds of users still on 7 made me focus on 7 at the time.
 
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