Windows 10

Still yet to do a clean install. I have removed old win folder etc and all running fine so i dont want to muck things up
 
Simian said:
Did that last night too on My Stream 7 :)

Can't seem to access my SD Card though! it say's theirs an error with the driver in the Device Manager!! :(

I might whip it out, re-format it, and stick it back in to see!!

it's a 64Gb Sandisk, which worked no problems under Win8.1 :(
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Skeeter said:
I upgraded my Stream 7 and had no issues with it picking up the SD card straight away.
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How are you guys finding Windows 10 performance wise? I was running the technical preview on it and it starting falling over a lot due to memory issues. Watching Twitch stream/youtube videos often became a crawl after 2 minutes as the drive would start paging -.-

I finally revert back to Windows 8 when it killed itself when starting it up one day (some dll error) and the performance has been pretty darn good! I would much prefer to use 10 again but I don't want to lose the performance.
 
i found this:

What if I required a clean install after a year has passed

Charles (MSFT) has stated the following:

1. "Once you upgrade to Windows 10 successfully using the free upgrade offer, you will be able to clean reinstall Windows 10 on the same device during and after the free upgrade offer period without having to purchase Windows 10 or having to go back to the prior version of Windows that you upgraded from."

2. "When you upgrade to Windows 10 from an Activated, Genuine, Qualifying OS (Windows 7, Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8, Windows 8.1) we register a Windows 10 Entitlement when the Windows 10 machine Activates and is on the internet.

This is not tied to your MSA, it is tied to your hardware Id which is mostly based on your motherboard fixed components. (no problem swapping that hard drive)

That fact we tie the license to the hardware is no change from XP, Vista, 7 or 8. What has changed is that when we upgrade you don't get a 5x5 key, but we register a Windows 10 entitlement via our licensing service. If you in years later need to re-install or clean install Windows 10, you can download media (which we have made easy to get now), install, skip entering your product key and on first boot when you connect to the internet it will match your Hardware ID, retrieve your Windows 10 entitlement and activate your system.

What we are getting away from is users having to squirrel away 5x5 keys forever and allow users more control over when they clean install or re-install. But its super important to upgrade that first install because we check the status of the down-level OS and grant that Windows 10 entitlement when Windows 10 activates."

3. "So every OS license is tied to the hardware its activated on. We currently have a process where users can ask for an override if they have to change out hardware that changes the ID of the system. Its a process that contacts Activation Support, and MS in either an automated way or a manual way determines if abuse is happening and allows the exception. If your Windows 10 system goes out of hardware tolerance, the same thing will happen though the interactions might change over time. During the Preview Period, we will encourage folks who upgrade to return to their original OS, Activate that (request an override) and then upgrade and get that new Win10 license registered; I say encourage and not require.


Its a balance. For 10 we have changed the balance a bit. We know users like to swap out hardware, so we moved the ID more to fixed components. The idea being that fewer people will now need to contact us after upgrading their hard drive (I'm crazy about taking old systems and putting SSD in them to see how well they run). The flip size of that is we are more dependent on that big square thing in the center. We hope the result is fewer people needing to contact us and an easier time telling when piracy is happening compared to just people like us who like to swap out components; including Motherboards. (I've got a DELL Vostro 410 that sits hangs at the bios, sometimes it will boot and sometimes not. I picked up a pulled MB with a better CPU on eBay and will swap out when I have some down time. I'm going to make sure I have Win10 on the system so I can watch the process and myself walk through support.)"



4. "So getting a product key would not change the license behavior. Since XP it has always been the case that your license has been tied to your hardware. In fact, for Win10 we have made it easier to change the more common components without pushing it out of hardware tolerance. And, just like previous OS, if you do fall out of hardware tolerance you can contact MS Support and ask for an exception. So really didn't change. Product Keys are pre-internet technology. I know we like to have them and see them (me too, I work on MS and I have XLS of my 5x5s and what machines I use them on.) That said, Microsoft wants to move to a keyless license world. Tons of calls and problems exist because people can't read they key, miss-type the key or just misplace the email or paper its on."



5. " Couple of things:
1.When you upgrade to Windows 10, you do not get a unique Win10 Key; its generic.
2.Your Windows 10 entitlement is registered against your HardwareID and not your MSA. Plenty of users run on Local Accounts and we register a Windows 10 entitlement for them to.

When you upgrade on a Genuine, Activated Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 PC to Windows 10. The Windows 10 Activation Process determines the previous OS was Genuine and that the Genuineness matches the HardwareID so we log an Entitlement for that HardwareID for Windows 10 to our Store Activation Service. When Windows 10 says it has Activated, then this has happened. You can also check. In Win10 search on Activate and see the result "See if Windows is Activated"



If you need to wipe the drive (or replace) at a later time and clean install Windows 10, Install from media, skip entering a product key and when the device goes to Activate, it will compare the HardwareID, pull down the Entitlement that already exists and Activate. Yeah!!!"

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For those wishing to wade through the 8 pages of Q and A's go here

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...s/ef8bdcc0-b84b-4c16-a690-1bf0aa803ab8?page=8



The above responses are consistent with the ongoing discussion on similar topics with the Windows 10 Team (Program Management, Licensing, Product, Support, etc.) in a variety of private forums, groups and listservs for MVP's and MSFT Employees.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/.../578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a?page=84
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Update finally appeared on my old Core 2 Quad. Installed, crashed several times, refuses to respond to commands after a few minutes, keeps forgetting the wifi password, is stuck in English US, the problems continue.

Back to Windows 7 for my old box. 10 stays on the Surface Pro 3 though.
 
Simian said:
Did that last night too on My Stream 7 :)

Can't seem to access my SD Card though! it say's theirs an error with the driver in the Device Manager!! :(

I might whip it out, re-format it, and stick it back in to see!!

it's a 64Gb Sandisk, which worked no problems under Win8.1 :(
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Just tested a Samsung 32GB EVO which worked fine, copied files to and from plus played a movie from the card
 
quick note, I was playing GTA last night and received an email - game crashed due to the action centre notification.

Quiet hours whilst gaming it is then lol
 
finally upgraded to win10. loving it. feels way more premium. just a few bits now i feel they need to update to make it feel modern (e.g. the way to change sounds for notifications and other things still looks like it's from winXP).

Only issue i have is that the driver for my sound must be hard to find (if there is one) so have no noise coming out my speakers. anyone know how to find out what sound card i have?
 
Fairly sure the answer is no said:
finally upgraded to win10. loving it. feels way more premium. just a few bits now i feel they need to update to make it feel modern (e.g. the way to change sounds for notifications and other things still looks like it's from winXP).

Only issue i have is that the driver for my sound must be hard to find (if there is one) so have no noise coming out my speakers. anyone know how to find out what sound card i have?
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If its onboard sound check your mobo manufacturers site. Most are realtek chipsets.
 
Updated my parents PC, no issues.

Updated my sisters laptop through the mire of a billion browser toolbars, adware, spyware, crapware and generally completely screwed-ness, activated, then nerfed it and clean installed and it activated instantly.

I've no idea what everyone's been having issues with.
 
I have just installed Windows 10 and my internet connection has been so slow! I have uninstalled my AV software, nothing. I have uninstalled my wireless card drivers and checked for new ones, not worked either.
 
Installed from a clean install no problem.

It is typical windows though. MS seem to fiddle with things for the sake of fiddling and making things that worked work less.

Control panel missing, lack of short cuts, an update system that is designed for the technophobe. All in an age now where a PC is more enthusiast driven than ever before.

MS just shoot themselves in the foot every time apart from win95 and XP. Keep it simple is it that hard to do?

If MS reinvented the car they'd put the steering wheel in the boot the engine on the roof and claim it was a better way of doing it just to be different.
 
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Just trying win 10 atm, not sure i like it tbh. The ui is awful it has ribbon crap on it everywhere in explorer. I miss the simple my computer with hard drives stuff with minimal clutter in the ui.

Coretemp freezes the pc :(

Temperatures have jumped for no reason with win 10 compared to win 7.

Had to use classic shell for win 7 start menu as new one is missing stuff a lot of stuff. Had to update display fusion cos old version was causing white taskbar.

It doesnt feel faster in using or booting with win 10 at all.

So far i think i might just revert back to win 7 with a clone i made just before i updated.
 
Edinho said:
Installed from a clean install no problem.

It is typical windows though. MS seem to fiddle with things for the sake of fiddling and making things that worked work less.

Control panel missing, lack of short cuts, an update system that is designed for the technophobe. All in an age now where a PC is more enthusiast driven than ever before.

MS just shoot themselves in the foot every time apart from win95 and XP. Keep it simple is it that hard to do?

If MS reinvented the car they'd put the steering wheel in the boot the engine on the roof and claim it was a better way of doing it just to be different.
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Erm. No. You are massively wide of the mark.
 
So I am still having problems with regular mouse disconnects, sometimes the keyboard does as well and sometimes both together. It only seems to happen in games. Does anyone know why?

Thanks :)
 
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From what I've been reading on the subject, have I got this right? If I want to do a clean install of W10, I need to:

Complete the upgrade from W8.1 to W10

Then I can install W10 cleanly...so basically installing it twice. Is that right?
 
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