Windows 10

james.miller said:
of course, they're not going to give it away forever :o
Click to expand...

I'm not convinced of this. Ok they might well start charging for Windows 10, but I think they've realised the market is moving away from paid for operating systems. They make most of their revenue from Cloud and Enterprise, and giving away Windows gets their tools infront of the next generation of developers.
 
Skeeter said:
So your concerned enough about keeping your PC on that you would go to the lengths of buying a UPS, but not concerned enough to take 3 seconds to see if a reboot is scheduled before setting off a nights worth of video rendering.
Click to expand...

Well firstly it's only an inconvenience (i.e. I can just re-render while I'm at work or the following evening instead) and so no, I don't and am not planning to get a UPS - if I was to buy one in the hypothetical "power keeps cutting randomly" situation it'd be more over concern for general damage to the machine or data corruption and/or the more annoying situation of it randomly having power cut while I'm actually using it...

But anyway... As far as I can tell it isn't a simple case of checking if a reboot is scheduled before I go to bed - what if an update gets downloaded 10 minutes after I leave?
 
The upgrade isn't free, as it consumes the prior versions license. To go from nothing to Windows 10 you need to buy it.

The Insider branch is free, but that comes with clauses and is seperately licensed.
 
I just formatted my HDD and reinstalled windows 10 from the downloadable ISO and when it got into windows it somehow had my custom desktop wallpaper, how on earth did it manage that? Does windows download and save a few things from your windows profile using cloud or summat? I've always disabled all cloud and information sharing etc so i dunno how it managed that.
 
Camburt said:
It is best of all previous Windows.
Click to expand...

Unless you're one of the unfortunate people who had problems. There were a few of us, and the problems were pretty major. And apparently some of these have been around, unfixed, since Windows 8.

OTOH, W7 was 100% trouble free out of the box.
 
BluD said:
I just formatted my HDD and reinstalled windows 10 from the downloadable ISO and when it got into windows it somehow had my custom desktop wallpaper, how on earth did it manage that? Does windows download and save a few things from your windows profile using cloud or summat? I've always disabled all cloud and information sharing etc so i dunno how it managed that.
Click to expand...

Logging in with a Microsoft Account will allow you to sync things like theme, wallpaper, passwords and settings.

Its great, I can just add my account to one of my families PCs and log in and its as if I'm at home.

Its annoying it doesn't sync the Start Menu, but as it's linked to the specific apps you have installed I can see why it doesn't.

If they hadn't borked OneDrive it would be almost perfect.
 
tribz said:
If it hasn't cost you any money, I cant see you how you can say its not free.

That implies you've lost your Windows 7 license. You haven't and can still revert back to your Windows 7 license within 30 days.
Click to expand...

Can't use them both though. Its one or the other. You exchange your 7/8.1 license for a 10 one. You can exchange it back, but your not getting something for nothing.

From now on it should just be referred too as a "Windows License", as its no longer tied to a specific version. There's just a limited time when you can turn your 7/8.1 license into one.
 
FoxEye said:
Unless you're one of the unfortunate people who had problems. There were a few of us, and the problems were pretty major. And apparently some of these have been around, unfixed, since Windows 8.

OTOH, W7 was 100% trouble free out of the box.
Click to expand...

Windows 10 has the potential to be the best Windows but it certainly isn't there yet - just taking Skeeters list a couple of pages back - Windows 7 or in some cases 8 does most of those things better. In previous versions I've never had stuff like the start menu becoming unresponsive or random losing settings or failing to pin stuff reliably, etc. like 10 has a habit of doing, or explorer getting very bogged down or crashing (last time I had explorer crash was earlier builds of XP) never mind it looks like cack compared to most other OS especially with the very limited style/colour/theme options and I could go on all night but I'm boring myself.
 
I think we all need to put the rose tinted glasses down :p. 7 was not a shining diamond, it had plenty of issues, especially at launch, and still has a lot of issues that remain unsolved today.

Its just that being bookended with the steaming pile of crap that was Vista and the unwelcome change of direction in 8 means we all remember it fondly.

When I ever end up using 7 now it just feels dated, and there are things in 10 that are major leaps forward. I remember doing all sorts with suspend and standby to avoid having to turn my 7 PC off because it took an annoyingly long time to boot. With 10 I haven't even considered that because starting up and shutting down take a handful of seconds (except when an update gets in the way obviously :p).

7 was good. But 10 is better. Where 10 falls down is on things which aren't major show stoppers.
 
On a laptop I have with Windows 10 installed, the start menu no longer has the option to check for Windows updates when you search for "windows updates" or "updates". This option did used to appear, but no longer. :(

Any solutions?
 
Skeeter said:
7 was good. But 10 is better. Where 10 falls down is on things which aren't major show stoppers.
Click to expand...

Things like the start menu stopping working (sometimes permanently until you reinstall) and windows update loops, etc. are kind of major show stoppers :p

Windows 7 sleep/hibernate are broken to **** fortunately never needed them, that aside I've never really had any major issues with 7 it has pretty much worked out the box for me - 7 benefited a lot from Vista coming before it where many issues were resolved in the development from Vista to 7.

EDIT: Windows 7 has never taken that long to boot for me - there is a bug with certain tiled wallpaper configurations that can add 40-90 seconds to your boot time - most of my 7 setups are booted to a fully loaded desktop about as fast as my 10 installs - infact it is 8 that has both beat.

EDIT2: One thing I find with the perception of 7 v 8 and 10 on boot speed is that a lot of people's experience of 8 or 10 is booting from eMMC or an SSD while a lot of 7 was from mechanical HDD.
 
Last edited:
Skeeter said:
Windows 10 isn't free. It never has been.
Click to expand...

mctiny said:
Until June it's a free upgrade, and insider program?
Click to expand...

Yup, did clean install of Windows 10 on new HD using the insider program around 8 months before RTM. I've got Windows 10 pro fully legit activated as long as I stay on the insider program. Completely free and no trade in for my Win 7 license.
 
Skeeter said:
Its annoying it doesn't sync the Start Menu, but as it's linked to the specific apps you have installed I can see why it doesn't.
Click to expand...

It'll be coming. On enterprise I frequently chopped and changed tiles while sorting out an enforced stock start menu for the kids and if you change something in the back end (the location of a shortcut for example) it updates the next time you open the start menu.

It's very much a live start menu, and I fully expect at some point that it will be clever enough to work out what's on each PC and adapt your start menu tiles accordingly (might take a little while at first, but it will cached thereafter).
 
this_is_gav said:
It'll be coming. On enterprise I frequently chopped and changed tiles while sorting out an enforced stock start menu for the kids and if you change something in the back end (the location of a shortcut for example) it updates the next time you open the start menu.

It's very much a live start menu, and I fully expect at some point that it will be clever enough to work out what's on each PC and adapt your start menu tiles accordingly (might take a little while at first, but it will cached thereafter).
Click to expand...

Shame there is such limited/lacking options for group management, etc. (both groups within the start menu and groups at a larger multi user level) and overall very limited vision with regard to the customisation, flexibility and scalability of the start menu its one of the things that I really like over 7 but it falls way way short of its potential.
 
I'm just so dissapointed that one of the first things I found myself having to install was DisplayFusion... as on paper it sounded like Microsoft had (finally) implemented some of the things I was using it for under Windows 7...

Native multi-monitor taskbars - hooray! Oh... I can't seem to set it up so I don't have duplicates of the start button, notification area and clock on all 3 of my monitors...

Better support for wallpapers with multi-monitors - hooray! Oh... you still can't easily seem to use a big wallpaper that's stretched across the monitors...

I mean really... for a company so eager to imitate Apple in copying features from other bits of software and then pretend they invented them they sure are doing a bad job of it in this regard... On goes DisplayFusion

Other than that minor annoyance (and the silly forced update/restart stuff) I'm still finding the overall experience to be pretty good... It seems to run well and feels relatively fresh (if a little inconsistent in places), and I really appreciate some of the updates to silly little things like the file-transfer dialogue and the task manager...

Can anyone tell me how I can get the new file browser to stop "guessing" the type of files in my folders and mucking about with the columns in the "details" view? I'd prefer if details always simply showed me "name, date modified, filesize", but everytime I copy say an audio file into a directory that didn't have music in it before it switches to the icon view and when I go back to "details" it's changed the columns shown to "filename, track number, artist, album"... I seem to remember in W7 you could set the folder options on a folder and all of it's children in the folder options, but I can't find an equivalent in W10
 
File copy/transfer dialog and options is awesome though that was mostly a Windows 8 addition - but I dunno why they didn't just largely keep the explorer from 7 - add in a couple of missing features (the ability to show a list of open explorer windows and drag and drop to them in the navigation pane would be nice for those of us who use multiple windows instead of open in the same window) and the file transfer dialog instead of the abomination in 10.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom