Windows 10

I read somwhere the other day that if you upgrade from Win7 to 10, system image restore for Win7 will no longer work properly. Is this true? I'm still reluctant to try Win10 but would like to try it via clean install if I knew I could fall back on a Win7 system image.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Is there going to be a proper release of W10, or will it continue to just update with these builds? I am a bit confused about how it works.
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Eh? The "proper" release was July last year?

Montala said:
I would like to download a bootable ISO file of the latest release, which includes all the updates!

Have MS published a new one since the end of last year?
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MagicBoy said:
Nope.

November 2015 is the latest. Expect the Anniversary update in July.
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There often unofficial ISOs built from the Insider updates and other major releases, so they are out there if you can find a trusted source.
 
MagicBoy said:
Nope.

November 2015 is the latest. Expect the Anniversary update in July.
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Thanks... that's what I thought.

Having used it on a couple of new systems recently though, the first thing Windows Update then wants to do is to download what seems like virtually the whole OS again, which is a bit of a pain! :(

... and July is still 3 months away!

In reply to 'Skeeter' though, I would always rather use one which I know has come directly from Microsoft, rather than having to rely on a "trusted source".
 
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Montala said:
In reply to 'Skeeter' though, I would always rather use one which I know has come directly from Microsoft, rather than having to rely on a "trusted source".
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Exactly. I should be able to download an official W10 ISO and do a fresh install without any preamble or other drama.

And I thought the release last year was a beta or something. I am not interested in using W10 at the moment; it seems full of bugs and issues.
 
You thought the full retail launch of Windows 10, and the fact all new PCs come with Windows 10 now was just a Beta??? It was launched on the 29th July 2015. Its almost a year old.

You can download a full Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft.
 
Skeeter said:
You thought the full retail launch of Windows 10, and the fact all new PCs come with Windows 10 now was just a Beta??? It was launched on the 29th July 2015. Its almost a year old.

You can download a full Windows 10 ISO from Microsoft.
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Thus the first year "free upgrades" are soon to be a thing of the past...
 
mrochester said:
Do we know what's going to happen after this point?
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There'll be no free upgrades:o
Windows 10 will stay for sale as normal, you just won't be able to "convert" your windows 7/vista/8/8.1 retail license, just like we did in he "good ol' days" :D

I guess the Insider program will continue, but not everybody wants to run "beta" software.
 
mrochester said:
Do we know what's going to happen after this point?
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Yes, they will start paying us to upgrade.

Skeeter said:
You will have to pay to upgrade, I'd assume.
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No, It makes no sense to want to exchange money as well as privacy for something you could have gotten in exchange for just privacy 24 hours earlier, it makes absolutely no sense to make people pay for losing their privacy, that's just absolutely cheeky. They will and can, however, start to offer cash incentives to make the final few people give up their privacy.

We have reached a point where data is worth a lot more to Microsoft and most other organisations than money is.
 
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Skeeter said:
Jesus are you still here?
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That is a rather ridiculous statement.

Jesus was never here.

If you're referring to me, I also was never here, due to the fact that I have 1 post in this thread at the time you asked that question. Including this post which I'm typing now the quantity of posts I have made "here" is two.

You, on the other hand have 642 posts in this thread which is almost double that of the poster in 2nd place. So bearing that fact in mind, I ask you, are you still here???

I have made a logical conclusion that a product which is being given away for free for a whopping period of a whole YEAR, as well as being rammed down peoples throats in the form of constant ad-ware, is not a product which would rank highly on any businesses list of chargeable products and services and in fact they would logically be inclined towards paying people to upgrade.

Instead of counter-logic you have provided some ridiculous and factually incorrect rhetorical question you should actually be asking yourself!! :D

Work for M$ by any chance? or one of the actual data mining initiatives perhaps?
 
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Lol, accusing people of working for Microsoft. Thats your standard answer to anything.

Your totally unaware of the flaw in your whole "its all a conspiracy" stance, aren't you?
 
Skeeter said:
Lol, accusing people of working for Microsoft. Thats your standard answer to anything.

Your totally unaware of the flaw in your whole "its all a conspiracy" stance, aren't you?
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Actually, you're the only person ever who I have asked if they work for Microsoft or a data mining initiative based on analysing their reply to a logically drawn conclusion.

So more emotionally-drawn illogic from you, it's impossible for that to be my "standard answer to anything" because it's the first time I've ever assumed someone actually works for Microsoft :)

Also it's nice that you're feeling "accused". Why would someone assuming someone works for Microsoft be an "accusation" of any sort, it was merely a question based on your ridiculously defensive initial reply to which you could simply have answered "no".

So to summarise our exchange thus far:

First you ask me if I'm "still here" when I only have 1 post in the thread and you have over 600, and then you say I always say people work for Microsoft, when I have never assumed anyone to have ever worked for Microsoft before in my life!

Your illogic is absolutely astounding that's for sure. :D



Finally, Who mentioned anything about "it's all a conspiracy" and why have you put that in quotes as if to try and make it look like that's actually a phrase I used? Trying to label me a CT nut in order that I lose merit? Classical action of someone who's been rumbled. ;)

All I did was draw a logical conclusion that something which is free for a whole year as well as being rammed down peoples throats by using invasive adware and constant prompts is not going to be high on any businesses list of chargeable products and services. No one is going to be queuing up to buy Windows 10 licences on the day it becomes "paid for" after a whole bloody year of being forced to take it for free. Need I remind you that you have yet to provide a logically-drawn counter claim, instead of some emotionally-drawn defensiveness which is all you seem to be doing!



And please enlighten me to this "flaw in my whole "its all a conspiracy" stance", (which is a stance you've made up anyway, so no idea what you're going to make up now, because you have already fabricated two things, the first being the rhetorical insinuation that I am always here when I had only 1 post and you have 600+, and the fabrication where you say accusing people of working for MS is a standard reply from me).


Anyways, I have made a simple and basic point, and you have had a chance to display whatever it is you wanted to display, so peace.
 
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asim18 said:
All I did was draw a logical conclusion that something which is free for a whole year as well as being rammed down peoples throats by using invasive adware and constant prompts is not going to be high on any businesses list of chargeable products and services.
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Windows 10 isn't free. Never has been. Microsoft have been charging for it for 9 months. How can the "logical conclusion" be that Microsoft wouldn't want to charge for something they have already been selling?

No one is going to be queuing up to buy Windows 10 licences on the day it becomes "paid for" after a whole bloody year of being forced to take it for free.
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I think you will find they will. Unless your "logically concluding" that all new PC/Laptop/Tablet sales will cease, or be Linux only, come August 2016?

And please enlighten me to this "flaw in my whole "its all a conspiracy" stance", (which is a stance you've made up anyway, so no idea what you're going to make up now, because you have already fabricated two things, the first being the rhetorical insinuation that I am always here when I had only 1 post and you have 600+, and the fabrication where you say accusing people of working for MS is a standard reply from me).
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You have been very vocal in your belief that the Windows 10 "free" upgrade is funded by the NSA as a global data mining initiative designed to invade and erode individuals privacy. A claim you have zero evidence for, and if it was even vaguely true, you would have been gagged from talking about ages ago.

Writing long posts trying to sound clever doesn't negate the fact that the 1 post you have made in here is to state that Windows 10 users have exchanged privacy for the use of the software (with NSA comments you have since edited out), and also stated that Microsoft would start offering financial incentives to people to force them to give up their privacy. To post that with no evidence, and then try and claim to be the one with the "logical" argument is just opening yourself up for ridicule.

Edit: For anyone who wants to get up to speed on our resident NSA conspiracy lunatic, have a read of some of theses: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/search.php?searchid=23677231 :rolleyes:

Edit 2: Sorry, it seems I was mistaken. You don't acuse people of working for Microsoft, you accuse them of being NSA agents instead :p:rolleyes:
 
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Put 14328 on this morning. Nice to see they have listened to feedback and hidden the email addresses from the login page.

Theres meant to be lots of other new stuff in this build too which I will surely find out as it breaks on me :p
 
Skeeter said:
You have been very vocal in your belief that the Windows 10 "free" upgrade is funded by the NSA as a global data mining initiative designed to invade and erode individuals privacy. A claim you have zero evidence for,
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My word I stopped reading about here. Never read such naivety in my life lol have you been living under a rock for the past 2 years or something?

The whole world has been vocal as hell with the exponential increase in the amount as well as scope of data collection bought on through Windows 10, and you still somehow believe that Windows 10 does not collect exponentially more user data than any other operating system on the planet right now? This is unprecedented stuff. :eek:

Unbelievable. You can keep calling me names, lunatic, CT nut or whatever you want, as I said I've made my point and you've made yourself look like you haven't got a clue (to me at least) so good bye.
 
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