Windows 10

Rroff · 30 Apr 2016 at 18:46

Mei said:
personally i would only use cortana if driving or something

Hmm never thought of that aspect usually I write cortana off as irrelevant to my life but I guess there are times when I'm working on some electronics stuff (soldering iron in hand, etc.) and referring to a datasheet or schematic on my tablet and could do with looking something up without putting down whatever I'm doing (which is often fiddly).

Skeeter · 30 Apr 2016 at 19:55

Rroff said:
Oh ffs I thought the expanded all apps on the start menu in 14328 onwards was a bug... are MS ******* stupid I don't want it expanded all the time and seems no option to have it back like it was...

I know its technically work in progress and all that but it then makes the start button (on the start menu) kind of silly as it just expands to show labels that you can see by hovering over the items any how.

EDIT: Oh wow some of the feedback rage on this one makes my comments look incredibly tame.

They implemented the all apps view by default based on feedback!

They can't keep everyone happy!

Rroff · 30 Apr 2016 at 20:13

Skeeter said:
They implemented the all apps view by default based on feedback!

They can't keep everyone happy!

Yes they can - a simple option to hide or show it - which would make perfect sense as well people like customise the start menu like... everything else in that position has been able to be enabled/disabled or unpinned, etc. yet when it was brought up they intimated it was likely to be a permanent thing........

Skeeter · 30 Apr 2016 at 21:24

Well if I was going to gauge interest on a new style of feature in a preview build I would make it default and force everyone to use it to get feedback

It's a preview, nothings set in stone.

Spacedeck · 5 May 2016 at 07:58

Has anyone had W10 gone from being activated, to not activated?

When I loaded up my PC this morning, I have the message that I need to activate Windows. Under Activation, it says "Windows is not activated" and a message appears saying "Activation failed because this device doesn't have a valid digital entitlement or product key. Error code 0c803F7001".

First time I've had this issue.

MOOGLEYS · 5 May 2016 at 08:01

Had that on the kids laptop. Restarted and it was OK and showing activated again.

Spacedeck · 5 May 2016 at 08:15

MOOGLEYS said:
Had that on the kids laptop. Restarted and it was OK and showing activated again.

Weird. I just did a restart but the problem persisted. The only thing a restart did, was remove the activation watermark.

Managed to fix this now. I had to find my W8.1 product key and activate again using that.

Glaucus · 5 May 2016 at 17:16

sounds like the free version is still ending. I'm surprised, I really thought they would have extended it.

shamus21 · 6 May 2016 at 07:19

Glaucus said:
sounds like the free version is still ending. I'm surprised, I really thought they would have extended it.

It is no big loss. I have roll it back on 2 desktops to windows 7 and am only running it on my gaming rig and a very old dell laptop.

Hiijinx · 6 May 2016 at 10:51

Still undecided if I even want it or not, have a copy bugging me to install but keep putting it off. Guess I have a few months to decide now.

Rroff · 6 May 2016 at 11:05

Hiijinx said:
Still undecided if I even want it or not, have a copy bugging me to install but keep putting it off. Guess I have a few months to decide now.

Not bothering myself as I can't see me using it on any setup I actually want to use unless they have a massive shift in development approach - will probably buy an extra copy to dual boot my gaming PC for those DX12 games. Actually considering buying Windows 8 to put on my Windows 10 tablet as 10 is just destroying any usefulness of it and I keep turning to my older Windows 8 tablet instead.

For most people I'd say it is atleast reserving your ability to free upgrade though.

eggcup · 6 May 2016 at 13:08

Is there anyway to do a fresh install of windows 10 without upgrading first, due to the upgrade failing every time I try and it rolling back to win8?

Skeeter · 6 May 2016 at 13:17

Yes, the ISO/USB install you download from Microsoft will now accept 7 or 8.1 keys directly.

Hiijinx · 6 May 2016 at 14:39

And our win 7 keys will still work after July or are we all going to have to buy one?

Skeeter · 6 May 2016 at 15:25

You won't be able to upgrade 7 to 10 for free after July. If you have upgraded 7 to 10 before then it will remain a valid 10 license after July.

Trifid · 6 May 2016 at 15:33

Skeeter said:
You won't be able to upgrade 7 to 10 for free after July. If you have upgraded 7 to 10 before then it will remain a valid 10 license after July.

Do we know the exact date? I've been sticking with 8.1 as I don't want to commit my 10 licence to a old i7 920 and I want to see what Broadwell-E offers before deciding.

Glaucus · 6 May 2016 at 15:36

29th and you dont commit your License.

V F · 6 May 2016 at 16:23

I still find it unreal how Microsoft can never create an elegant UI. It is always one drastic change from another but it gets worse. It doesn't have elegance and style. It never ever feels polished.

ED209 · 6 May 2016 at 16:29

Upgrade, roll back and if you decide to upgrade after the 29th you should be good to go

Rroff · 6 May 2016 at 17:04

V F said:
I still find it unreal how Microsoft can never create an elegant UI. It is always one drastic change from another but it gets worse. It doesn't have elegance and style. It never ever feels polished.

I don't understand how many people just accept it

but then I've extensive usage of OSes/UI replacements that probably the average person isn't so familiar with.

EDIT: It is disingenuous to write it off as a work in progress as well really as an elegant UI is something you need to get right from the start atleast in the most basic framework of principles and practises even if you flesh it out more later.