Windows 8 Adoption Poor

Martini1991 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:09

gareth170 said:
no it would be far less confusing for none technical people Having it look the same on any device..

my mum is a none technical person and she would prefer the layout/UI to be the same on any device.. that way she'll only need to lean once then apply it to any device.

So, someone buys an RT product, and goes to install x86 software and then finds out he can't, don't you think that's down to this product looking the same as their x86 laptop/desktop etc?

It does confuse people, as they don't know the technical differences.

I mean, you've just proved my point, your mother, given the products look the same would try and use them the same.

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:22

Martini1991 said:
So, someone buys an RT product, and goes to install x86 software and then finds out he can't, don't you think that's down to this product looking the same as their x86 laptop/desktop etc?

It does confuse people, as they don't know the technical differences.

I mean, you've just proved my point, your mother, given the products look the same would try and use them the same.

a none technical people wouldn't know how to install software. my mum doesn't. so you point still fails

if a laptop/desktop/tablet ect has been setup already they can easyly go from each device.

richb93 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:22

gareth170 said:
u can right click the bottom left corner which as the system tool ect

Yes I know the features are still accessible but I find my workflow better via the start menu.

Martini1991 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:24

gareth170 said:
a none technical people wouldn't know how to install software. so you point still fails.

You're kidding right?

They know how to install software, they just click next (Which is why we usually get people with browsers full of crap)
Are you literally grasping at straws as opposed conceding a valid point?

Loads of my friends, wouldn't be able to tell the difference between RT and Windows 8, they'd buy an RT tablet and expect to install their software as normal.

EDIT : I'm actually really confused as to why you'd stoop so low with an answer like that.

The vast majority of people aren't what I'd class as technical people, but I'm sure those many hundreds of millions of people using MSN all know how to install software.

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:30

Martini1991 said:
You're kidding right?

They know how to install software, they just click next (Which is why we usually get people with browsers full of crap)
Are you literally grasping at straws as opposed conceding a valid point?

Loads of my friends, wouldn't be able to tell the difference between RT and Windows 8, they'd buy an RT tablet and expect to install their software as normal.

no. my mum didn't know how. shes in her late 50's.

Martini1991 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:31

gareth170 said:
no. my mum didn't know how.

One doesn't make a rule, and that's just abnormal.

How'd you explain those 100's of millions of none technically minded people installing Firefox/Chrome/Safari/MSN and the like?

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:34

Martini1991 said:
One doesn't make a rule.

there are others on this forum who say similar

Martini1991 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:36

gareth170 said:
there are others on this forum who say similar

And they're not a rule.
You've only got the hundreds of millions of none technically minded children installing MSN etc as evidence.

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:36

Martini1991 said:
How'd you explain those 100's of millions of none technically minded people installing Firefox/Chrome/Safari/MSN and the like?

how do u know most of them didn't get someone else to do it for them. or u can see what everybody does?

Martini1991 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:40

Well, this is going no where.
You're just grasping at straws now.

I'm not in a unique position, but being 21 and growing up with computers, the majority of people who alongside me are useless with them, but they can still install software, I mean I witness my friends mess up their computers enough.

To suggest people can't install software, then make a sarcastic comment about seeing what everybody else can do, truly ridiculous.

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:48

Martini1991 said:
Well, this is going no where.
You're just grasping at straws.

you are too.

theres no way u can know if those 100's of millions of none technically minded can do or can't do. u don't truthful know if even half of them can install software by themselfs.. it's just guessing

i wasn't meaning all none technically minded can't do it. but the older gen of people wouldn't or find it very confusing. the younger gen of people have growup with computers around them, so of course it'll be easy for them

Martini1991 · 16 Mar 2013 at 19:58

You say this exactly ;

gareth170 said:
a none technical people wouldn't know how to install software. my mum doesn't. so you point still fails

End of the day, people do buy RT expecting to install their X86 software on, not knowing the differences, and that's down to them looking bang on the same, if you spend time looking at listing of them/sales/return reasons, you'll see it happening.

So yes, it does confuse people, it's irrefutable.

gareth170 · 16 Mar 2013 at 20:08

Martini1991 said:
You say this exactly ;

yes and thats my fault for missing some words out.

i ment none technical older gen people wouldn't know how to install software.

you should know by now i sometimes miss out words due to brain thinking faster than typing with the on screen keyboard.

V F · 16 Mar 2013 at 20:20

Elevon said:
Obviously I find it easier then you when it comes to thought and change etc..you are so rigid in thought you can't see past Win8,as to your Win9 remark I will use whatever Microsoft throw at me regardless as long as its stable and has features I need,I could say same thing about my next Linux OS as well but hey you think Win8 is the only OS I use going by your remarks.

Want to take a dig at my Android OS devices as well?..thought not .

I'm sure he'll be whinging in this thread or another Windows 8 discussion about our remarks as fanbois. As he always does.

this_is_gav · 16 Mar 2013 at 21:00

gareth170 said:
no. my mum didn't know how. shes in her late 50's.

Most mums know how to install software enough to end up with 50 different toolbars in Internet Explorer. I know. I work with them.

james.miller · 16 Mar 2013 at 21:04

this_is_gav said:
Most mums know how to install software enough to end up with 50 different toolbars in Internet Explorer. I know. I work with them.

Ain't that the truth, lol.

OptimaLnrg · 17 Mar 2013 at 10:29

Imagine the sheer nunmber of broken or filthy monitors in schools if the education sector actually bought into this lmfao.

gareth170 · 17 Mar 2013 at 10:53

if your happy with the os your already have/using why upgrade and moan? MS are not forcing people to upgrade to win8.

also nobody have answered to this yet > even if MS didn't change the UI there will still be people moaning about something else about the os, right? so either way there will always be this with people. so if MS listened to every single moan ect there will be no change / improvements really.

djkav · 17 Mar 2013 at 11:07

If you have a tablet running RT, then you wouldn't be wanting to install x86 software. Its common to associate a tablet with an app store (see android/iOS tablets).

A laptop/desktop will have full fat windows 8 on, otherwise, its been setup by someone with half a brain.

Even normal non techy people will realise theres an app store for a tablet.

mmj_uk · 17 Mar 2013 at 11:11

gareth170 said:
if your happy with the os your already have/using why upgrade and moan? MS are not forcing people to upgrade to win8.

They aren't and that's the point of the thread, it doesn't stop those who have used it being able to comment on why they went back to Windows 7.

Whereas before MS were only failing in the tablet/touchscreen market now they're failing in the desktop market as well, they should have kept their desktop base happy whilst trying to grab market share in the portable arena... all they've done is annoyed desktop users to the extent that if they do upgrade to a tablet will avoid Microsoft like the plague.