Windows 8 Adoption Poor

V F said:
I'm sure he'll be whinging in this thread or another Windows 8 discussion about our remarks as fanbois. As he always does.
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Give it a rest, you've added nothing to this thread apart from moaning about me, if you can't form any kind of discussion why are you posting?

How would you like Windows 8 threads to go? You, Gareth, Elevon and Kitch can sit in a little circle and rave about how good it is? Because unfortunately that's not what everyone feels and as a group there seems to be an inability to cope with people expressing opinions other than your own. I don't care if you guys love it or not, you're welcome to your opinion, however you seem to think anyone with a different opinion is whinging.

It's a discussion forum, for discussing things. Grow up.
 
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djkav said:
If you have a tablet running RT, then you wouldn't be wanting to install x86 software. Its common to associate a tablet with an app store (see android/iOS tablets).

A laptop/desktop will have full fat windows 8 on, otherwise, its been setup by someone with half a brain.

Even normal non techy people will realise theres an app store for a tablet.
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The app store is on both RT and X86, so is the desktop.
So I'd be pretty sure they'd associate it as being able to install their X86 software, just like the original XP tablets years ago, and all the X86 Windows tablets that have existed since, RT tablets are the first iteration of Windows tablets that aren't X86.

Anyway, it's irrefutable, people are selling them/returning them for that very reason, it does happen, there's no ifs or buts about it.
 
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this_is_gav said:
Most mums know how to install software enough to end up with 50 different toolbars in Internet Explorer. I know. I work with them.
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It is not just Mum's who know how to do that.

After installing software and cleaning up a friends laptop I was asked to take a look at a problem that he was having. I decided to do this remotely via Team Viewer. I was amazed when I opened IE to find that well over a third of its open window was filled with so many toolbars.
Even though I had tried to encourage him to check for these options when installing software etc he had still accepted the defaults and thus there was almost more space taken up by the toolbars than a browsing window.!
 
the only question is does it run apps faster? The only function of an OS is to provide an environment to do something in, That is what businesses want, productivity.
I still run Dos apps because they are efficient and quickly do what need to do. I run win7 because likewise it does what it needs to and addresses more memory than XP which is also useful.

All the rest is eye candy and a matter of choice to the user.
 
gareth170 said:
a none technical people wouldn't know how to install software. my mum doesn't. so you point still fails

if a laptop/desktop/tablet ect has been setup already they can easyly go from each device.
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most people can install software.... you realise lots of people buy software and install it?
 
Minstadave said:
Give it a rest, you've added nothing to this thread apart from moaning about me, if you can't form any kind of discussion why are you posting?

How would you like Windows 8 threads to go? You, Gareth, Elevon and Kitch can sit in a little circle and rave about how good it is? Because unfortunately that's not what everyone feels and as a group there seems to be an inability to cope with people expressing opinions other than your own. I don't care if you guys love it or not, you're welcome to your opinion, however you seem to think anyone with a different opinion is whinging.

It's a discussion forum, for discussing things. Grow up.
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You are missing the point again as usual,I said I've no issues with anybody not liking Win8 or any other OS,my point was its usable and workable ,your view was the opposite so I was disagreeing with you...Its like somebody does not like a particular car model/style which is fine, however that car still gets you A to B and is fully usable.

I would like to see improvements in Metro UI ie more customization options etc...hopefully in Windows Blue or Win9 I'll get my wish so only time will tell.


As for raving I don't, I will tell you what I think of any OS that includes Windows or any Linux distro I have used ,however end of the day I'll give you my honest feedback on any OS that includes Win8,I have no issue with anybody not liking any OS but I'm allowed to disagree with you if I think your statement is wrong ie with regards to usability of Win8 etc...

As for whinging lets be honest here we have all read some of that from "no Aero" to "I want my Aero" to other things which I've mentioned etc...Moaning or whinging is fine as long as its constructive,my pet whinge is I want more Metro customization which I have stated 1000x already,they could maybe put the restart/power options etc in a better place for "average Joe" which has already been stated by a few members here,little things like that ,see I can point out what I like to see improved in a constructive manner and do you notice how I never said Win8 or any other OS for that matter is perfect.

Icing on the cake for me would be to able change Metro Tiles to different shapes and sizes,colour code them too,would be great for me,as it stands it bit restricted in the customization area.
Win8 is a new OS with new UI,at least now they have a new template which they can improve work on ,reminds me of Win3.11 to Win95.



Personally I'm looking forward to the next gen of operating systems down the road,something new to try out and talk about.
I also have to applaud Microsoft for improving security again as well,something we all should take serious and be glad they have not got lazy on.
 
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@Minstadave , so it's ok for u to raving about how poor designed the UI ect u think it is, but when some other people say about how good it is, u don't like it.

nobody said win8 is perfect. no OS is perfect, unless u made one yourself. but your making out win8 isn't useable/stable. which it is.
 
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Martini1991 said:
End of the day, people do buy RT expecting to install their X86 software on, not knowing the differences, and that's down to them looking bang on the same, if you spend time looking at listing of them/sales/return reasons, you'll see it happening.

So yes, it does confuse people, it's irrefutable.
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once MS releases Surface Pro and other manufacturers do their own with win8 pro that issue wouldn't be a issue as much.

of course it's price depending.
 
gareth170 said:
@Minstadave
nobody said win8 is perfect. no OS is perfect, unless u made one yourself. but your making out win8 isn't useable/stable. which it is.
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I never said it was unusable or unstable. It's just not as usable as 7 for me, it's stability seems fine, and based on that I feel that 8 is a bit pointless, it's fine for a tablet I'm sure, but it's a step backwards for desktop usage - which is where the vast majority will use it.

I think that's all there is to be said to be honest. Each to their own and all that. At the end of the day it's a bit of software.
 
I like it a lot, it is quite a sweet experience with a touch mouse, more so than with a desktop touchscreen. However a lot of people don't like it, probably because it is fundamentally different exactly where it took a lot of people a while to get used to the old 'classic' (more historic now) start menus. I have set one of my machines up with lots of apps pinned to the taskbar and my Mac using mates quite like it.....which speaks volumes but lets not go there.
As for tablets, as I understand it 8 does not currently support screens smaller than 10 inches, which is where the biggest demand is, something which 'Blue' looks likely to rectify.
 
Minstadave said:
I think that's all there is to be said to be honest. Each to their own and all that. At the end of the day it's a bit of software.
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yes i've said this before. there will always be people that will like things where some others don't , that goes for everything in life.

also you can't really blame MS for trying something new. it's they OS at the end of the day.
 
I wont use windows 8 tried, my aunt just brought a new pc that comes with win 8 they hate it already i did warn them not to go for it.
You love it or hate it.
 
gareth170 said:
once MS releases Surface Pro and other manufacturers do their own with win8 pro that issue wouldn't be a issue as much.

of course it's price depending.
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Well, it's still an issue, as RT stuff will continue to exist and confuse.
You've already got Windows 8 pro tablets (And have done for a while, but the state of play is abysmal) and Surface Pro has launched already (Bar UK).
 
gareth170 said:
yes i've said this before. there will always be people that will like things where some others don't , that goes for everything in life.

also you can't really blame MS for trying something new. it's they OS at the end of the day.
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Well, you can if it isn't popular. Afterall, MS make windows to make money, if people aren't buying it then Microsoft are the only ones to blame.

In my opinion, it is public perception that will be the decider for windows 8. Unifying the phone, tablet and desktop platforms is truly an amazing achievement. However, the problem is that people perceive it is a touch os, rightly or wrongly, and in peoples' minds that means it's bad for PCs, because PCs don't use touch.

Now, whether you can ignore the new metro stuff or not is irrelevant, people are stubborn and once they've made their mind up on whether something is good or bad they won't be swayed easily. Vista was hugely unpopular because people thought it was rubbish, it doesn't matter if it was rubbish or not.

So how should Microsoft fix it? They can't, in my opinion. The damage is done by bad marketing. Perform some spring cleaning on windows 8, re-brand it as windows 9 and it'll probably be hugely successful :p.
 
but what gets me is people knew what win8 had way before it was released and had a public preview of it so why on earth did they continue to buy it even tho they hated it?


this is the reason why im saying some people just love to moan.

by buying it even tho u knew u hated/don't like it only helped MS to keep it. which is great for the people who like it :)
 
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Minstadave said:
Give it a rest, you've added nothing to this thread apart from moaning about me, if you can't form any kind of discussion why are you posting?
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You're adding everything so well.

How would you like Windows 8 threads to go? You, Gareth, Elevon and Kitch can sit in a little circle and rave about how good it is? Because unfortunately that's not what everyone feels and as a group there seems to be an inability to cope with people expressing opinions other than your own. I don't care if you guys love it or not, you're welcome to your opinion, however you seem to think anyone with a different opinion is whinging.
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But you see, if Windows was my main OS, that would be another story. Why is it I'm not after other peoples opinions against Windows 8? they say their part and move on. Unlike you. Every Windows 8 thread I enter there you are, bitching about the same stuff. You want everyone to know how much you don't like it and you cannot stop.

Somehow I can picture everytime you switch Windows 8 on, you've got to then express your detest for it on a forum. Then you get ratty when someone responds to you when you don't like what you're reading.

It's a discussion forum, for discussing things. Grow up.
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Discussions only work if it's covering new ground. You've been repeating the same things you don't like since release.

On and on and on and on. Then you tell me to give it a rest? I wouldn't have responded to any Windows thread if I hadn't seen your excessive whining for months.

 
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Just spent the weekend building a Complete Server 2012 test lab with Multiple Win8 and server 2012 VMs - not a fan of the UI changes, to say the least.

Biggest shock was Exchange 2013, but in general changes to the UI are a big step back in productivity for a server environment IMO.

Nate
 
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