Windows 8 Adoption Poor

Fillado said:
But what's the point of bringing it back then? I would imagine most businesses want the Start Menu back simply because they want to ignore Metro. This won't appease them at all.
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This is a consumer cycle, businesses were never going to move to 8 en masse even if it was the best os ever.

8 is a market familiarisation exercise for Ms.
 
I love the feedback option on win8, I've had a few small developers reply on iOS, but win8 everyone seems to listen. I put feedback on kindle about10mins ago and already got an email back from them. I hope they implement it, I love viewing PDFs in kindle app on ipad, especially brochures.

Thanks for taking the time to contact us about this.

It’s rare that we receive a feedback like yours, even though we have a dedicated team working relentlessly to implement the feedback back we receive.

I do understand how convenient it would be for all our customers if this feature to open PDF files on your Kindle for Windows app is implemented.

To make sure that your comments are heard by the right people in the organization, I've forwarded your message to our Kindle development team so they can look into the possibility of implementing this option soon.

As with all of our products, we continue to make Kindle and Kindle apps better for customers with regular software updates. Customer feedback like yours is essential in helping us determine what additional features our visitors and customers want most.

As soon as this feature becomes available, we will definitely let you know about this through our website.
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And I know a few of us hammered netflix and audible on there first iterations and they listened.
 
Because PC performance doesn't need to increase to run word/the web people will be holding on to their Vista/Win 7 laptops/desktops for a long time. No need to upgrade to win8 at all, it is far beyond most home users.

Businesses have no reason to either really..
 
_Jimlad_ said:
gotta agree, Businesses would be foolish to take win8 on,
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When deployed right, less savvy staff actually find Windows 8 easier to use because stuff isn't hidden under important looking (To them) filetrees which look like they shouldn't be clicked anymore. IT departments just need to ensure the Start screen is set up so its relevant to the business.

The people who tend to whine are those who think they know everything about Windows but find they no longer do and don't want to learn. Unfortunately that includes the spotty geeks in most IT departments who can't see further than their coffee mugs.
 
_Jimlad_ said:
gotta agree, Businesses would be foolish to take win8 on,
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indeed for now this is so but many businesses are so slow to adopt new OS due to the expense of rolling out OS's on so many machines.

DEpends how good their in house IT dept is at running the old OS's all though I agree win 7 seems like a more logical choice for businesses than 8

kitch9 said:
When deployed right, less savvy staff actually find Windows 8 easier to use because stuff isn't hidden under important looking (To them) filetrees which look like they shouldn't be clicked anymore. IT departments just need to ensure the Start screen is set up so its relevant to the business.

The people who tend to whine are those who think they know everything about Windows but find they no longer do and don't want to learn. Unfortunately that includes the spotty geeks in most IT departments who can't see further than their coffee mugs.
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OI! I deliberately adopted win8 to learn it to help our customers and colleagues alike :)

You are right though :P


On another note it's been a solid 6 months on windows 8 for me now and tbh I've forgotten I even changed I still use it as if it's windows 7 the type of person I am prevents me from fully benefiting from the new Start GUI but it doesn't annoy me at all. I am off next week SO I will have more of a play see if I can use more of it :D
 
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kitch9 said:
When deployed right, less savvy staff actually find Windows 8 easier to use because stuff isn't hidden under important looking (To them) filetrees which look like they shouldn't be clicked anymore. IT departments just need to ensure the Start screen is set up so its relevant to the business.

The people who tend to whine are those who think they know everything about Windows but find they no longer do and don't want to learn. Unfortunately that includes the spotty geeks in most IT departments who can't see further than their coffee mugs.
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I think you will find most people that know about IT understand its a os made for a tablet market that MS failed in big time. And its big bright fisher price buttons and layout don't suit a work environment
 
_Jimlad_ said:
I think you will find most people that know about IT understand its a os made for a tablet market that MS failed in big time. And its big bright fisher price buttons and layout don't suit a work environment
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I think you'll find that most people that know about IT understand that it works just as well for desktops as windows 7 and adds touch refinements. Outside of corporate IT stuck in the stone age, most forward thinking and innovative enterprises are embracing tablets and other touch based form factors, both corporately supplied and Bring Your Own Device. Windows 8 offers these companies with an eye on the future the ability to provide secure, compatible, managed devices and work with the business to be an asset rather than just a cost centre. Unfortunately corporate IT still has more than it's fair share of staff who are don't want to learn something new and innovate, preferring to stay in the comfy past blaming users for somehow being a bit thick and unable to learn anything or adapt.

The fact that it scares some corporate IT teams who still think the XP UI is too advanced and try to make even Windows 7 look like windows 95 because otherwise their users can't cope isn't something that anyone should take seriously. /shrug

Anyone who knows anything about enterprise IT understands that most companies have just finished, or indeed are still in the middle of deploying Windows 7 and so would not being doing a new mass OS deployment now no matter what it was. Windows 8 is being adopted and deployed tactically in the vast majority of Enterprise customers for specific scenarios in conjunction with existing Windows 7 deployments. Most of these companies will wait until W9 or 10 (or whatever they are called) before doing a major "lift and shift" deployment again. Having said that, by that time Enterprise IT will have changed completely with subscription based services such as Office 365, Google & Salesforce etc negating the need for old style restrictive corporate IT departments. It's not a huge leap to imagine the view of operating Systems will have changed as well, we're already starting to see it with Windows Blue. The days of major deployments every 5 years could be vanishing slowly replaced by rolling updates and evergreen environments. The sooner the better to be honest, time to move on from the 90s...
 
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gareth170 said:
people need to remember windows wasn't made just for them tho.. your 1 out of 1xxxxxxx

it's like with any other os, if a new os has some features / improvements u want then u would upgrade. if the os doesn't have features / improvements u want then no point upgrading.
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Its nonsense as well.

I built a website yesterday with dozens and dozens of images, files, created lots of thumbnails and links etc etc on Windows 8 and it was just the same as any other Windows OS I've used, in fact due to the new multi-monitor tweaks it was EASIER IMO.
 
_Jimlad_ said:
I think you will find most people that know about IT understand its a os made for a tablet market that MS failed in big time. And its big bright fisher price buttons and layout don't suit a work environment
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LOL, no. They are just sat in their box office squeezing their zits thinking that they need to protect everyone because it is different and their devine font of knowledge is all they need.

Just so you know I run my own company and I have rolled it out across the office to around 30 PC's with the minimal of fuss.
 
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kitch9 said:
LOL, no. They are just sat in their box office squeezing their zits thinking that they need to protect everyone because it is different and their devine font of knowledge is all they need.

Just so you know I run my own company and I have rolled it out across the office to around 30 PC's with the minimal of fuss.
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If what you say is true. Why ? What was your business case for "rolling" out windows 8 how did you justify the time and cost ? As far as I can see it offers nothing over windows 7 on a desktop format.
 
I think you will find most people that know about IT understand its a os made for a tablet market that MS failed in big time. And its big bright fisher price buttons and layout don't suit a work environment
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Well we had a BT openreach engineer in yesterday and his Core i5 Panasonic Toughbook was running windows 8, he didn't seem to have any problems doing work on it.
 
You probably wouldn't but then most companies don't upgrade the entire estate to successive OS releases, they tend to skip one to get value from the OS they've just spent months deploying.

As much as you'd like to paint this as a failing of Windows 8, it's just general enterprise IT practise and would be the case no matter what Windows 8 looked or felt like.

The reality is most companies have just finished (or still are) going from XP to 7 and would not start another deployment no matter what the OS. You may or may not like Win 8 but enterprise adoption has very little to do with Win 8 outside of tactical scenarios. A super revamped version of Windows 7 without metro would have done no better at this time and arguably worse as it would be missing adoption for touch based scenarios.
 
Yeah I use win8 on my laptop. My point is why would you upgrade your whole company from win7 to win8
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Sorry my point was BT must have had some sort of 'use case' as you put it to upgrade their engineers laptops that outweighed the cons of the new 'fisher price' start screen.
 
_Jimlad_ said:
If what you say is true. Why ? What was your business case for "rolling" out windows 8 how did you justify the time and cost ? As far as I can see it offers nothing over windows 7 on a desktop format.
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The office was running a mixture of Vista, 7 and XP. The price made it attractive to unify them all, and just so you know upgrading an os isn't difficult.

There are quite a few improvements that are useful to business which is mostly subtle under hood stuff. Have a Google.
 
I have used Win8 since launch and still do. The thing is I don't get Metro... If I select the game icon in the start screen it drops to desktop then goes into it. On my phone you choose the app and off it goes, it doesn't go to the home screen then start.

It seems to me MS wanted to do away with the desktop completely then either ran into technical issues or couldn't guarantee that every piece of PC software would work within the Metro UI. Its almost like a halfway house. Maybe WIN9 will be something radical.
 
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