Windows 8 Consumer Preview Thread
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i thought id give this a try this afternoon.
downloaded the 32 bit iso. tried burning to a dvd... it was taking AGES to extract the files, so i quit that and went down the usb route.
all seemed to be going ok, but during installation, and after a couple of restarts, i just get a blank black screen.
cant get into safe mode or anything.
apoon a restart, i get the crappy looking fish, then it seems to be doing things, mouse and keyboard lights come on etc... but just a black screen. i'm not getting a no signal warning from the monitor, so its not that..
Any ideas guys?
downloaded the 32 bit iso. tried burning to a dvd... it was taking AGES to extract the files, so i quit that and went down the usb route.
all seemed to be going ok, but during installation, and after a couple of restarts, i just get a blank black screen.
cant get into safe mode or anything.
apoon a restart, i get the crappy looking fish, then it seems to be doing things, mouse and keyboard lights come on etc... but just a black screen. i'm not getting a no signal warning from the monitor, so its not that..
Any ideas guys?
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MS may be on to something with this version of Windows, but it needs more work on it before calling it a final product.
I hope they do something with the taskbar. All it seems to do is obscure & obstruct the metro menus & generally feels clunky sitting at the bottom of the desktop.
Hope they implement a better solution. It just doesn't 'fit' with the rest of the O/S.
I hope they do something with the taskbar. All it seems to do is obscure & obstruct the metro menus & generally feels clunky sitting at the bottom of the desktop.
Hope they implement a better solution. It just doesn't 'fit' with the rest of the O/S.
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This i disagree with. Repositories are quite possibly Linux's greatest advantage. It's not like they're a collection of software made by whoever made the OS specifically for use on it. They're collections of as much stable software as possible. Doing it that way saves so much time and effort, and is one of the main factors why it's so incredibly difficult to get any sort of malware on Linux.
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You're missing the point of an app store and the point is to make it easy to monetize apps, this has nothing to do with the quality of repos.
The quality of apps is what will drive the consumer whether it be free or not and as a developer which platform would you develop for ? One that is many years old, stagnant and doesn't even offer HTML5 apps or Windows 8 that offers multi-channel delivery.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I just tried it there but got 'This driver isn't compatible with this version of Windows' also switching to compatibility mode makes no difference
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I am learning programming (albeit at a very slow pace) and i aim to develop for Linux. Not because it's easy to monetize, but because i don't see any point in doing so for Windows. It's like when you reach a point with friends and family tech support where you just get fed up of fixing bugs with IE, getting bombarded with dozens of toolbars and poor security features. You stop bothering with it and just tell them to use Chrome or Firefox. Linux has the framework and the community, plus it's much easier to develop for a system that you use on a day to day basis. And why wouldn't you as a developer, the tools and potential for customization make it much more appealing.
Quite contrarily, i think you're missing the point of FOSS. A software center isn't an "app store", it's a front end for a package manager. A system of managing software with the aim of making it easy on the user and the maintainer. Free open source software developers aren't really fussed about the possibility of monetizing their work. The whole movement is based on the idea that you shouldn't have to pay for basic software. Personally i think there is a case to be made for things like games to cost moeny, which blur the line between software and art, but they fit in with the existing framework already.
Also, "many years old, stagnant"? Are you describing Linux there or have i missed something?
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Installed on an old Core2 laptop with 2GB RAM and while it runs fine and looks nice, I do not like it. Would be cool on a tablet but it's not a tablet, it's an old Dell Inspiron 1525. All the onscreen guff wants to be touched and slid about and is in the way of what I use a laptop for.
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No this is rubbish, why then has Canonical removed synaptic in favour of the software centre ? Why do they promote non-free software ?
And please don't quote FOSS to me as I've made contributions that will surprise you.
Also, "many years old, stagnant"? Are you describing Linux there or have i missed something?
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Been playing with Windows 8 for a few hours now. First impressions are that Metro is the wrong tool for desktop computing, though it's probably fine on a tablet. I really don't understand what Microsoft are thinking when they try to radically change the desktop interface for no good reason.
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Canonical don't represent the entire FOSS movement. They're just a company that aims to make an OS that appeals to newcomers. If it seems in their best interests to include non free software in the software center then so be it, it doesn't change anything when you look at the big picture.
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Please explain exactly how a completely decentralized model, with no regulation and varying levels of security and no standards to keep to is in any way superior to package management?
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Please explain exactly how a completely decentralized model, with no regulation and varying levels of security and no standards to keep to is in any way superior to package management?
eh?
Anyone tried this with multiple monitors? I knew about these changes already but if anyone don't know, heres the new stuff:
You can now set a desktop wallpaper on each monitor:
Right click desktop > Personalize > Desktop background > Right click on any image and it will have "Set for monitor 1" and so on.
Or have one large wallpaper span across all monitors:
On the Personalize window under Picture Position set it to: Span
To make the taskbar on each monitor only show icons for windows open on that monitor:
Right click taskbar > Properties > Show taskbar buttons on: Taskbar where window is open.
You can now set a desktop wallpaper on each monitor:
Right click desktop > Personalize > Desktop background > Right click on any image and it will have "Set for monitor 1" and so on.
Or have one large wallpaper span across all monitors:
On the Personalize window under Picture Position set it to: Span
To make the taskbar on each monitor only show icons for windows open on that monitor:
Right click taskbar > Properties > Show taskbar buttons on: Taskbar where window is open.
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From what I've been reading and watching on the tube the interface in windows 8 is really not multi-monitor friendly at all imo, for example it won't even remember app or window placement (something which win xp did natively), this is a serious oversight, windows 7 suffered from the same problem but you could get around it using shellfolderfix
Now what I don't get is thousands of multi-monitor users have complained about this but MS don't seem to care, I just hope the above app is compatible with W8, if anyone could try it out for me on a multi-monitor set up on win8 it would be greatly appreciated.
Now what I don't get is thousands of multi-monitor users have complained about this but MS don't seem to care, I just hope the above app is compatible with W8, if anyone could try it out for me on a multi-monitor set up on win8 it would be greatly appreciated.
I have two 2560x1600 monitors plus a 1080p TV connected. No problems apart from the charm bar not showing up, but i'm sure that will be fixed before release.
And it remembers window placement, for example if i open something and put it on monitor 2 it will remember that and open it in the exact same place next time. So I don't know what you mean...
Multi monitor support in this is better than any other version of Windows.
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Right, this is big news for me if this is true, for some reason a couple of people on the tube said this didn't work.
EDIT -
See here mate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNyPWg5tc2g go to 1min12sec he says that it (win8) doesn't remember the monitor you've opened a program on, if you open it on your secondary screen next time you open it it will default back to the main desktop monitor and you have to drag it back across.
Is he wrong then?
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I just tried it with more stuff to make sure.... everything opened in the same place and on the same monitor. I then restarted to see if still worked afterwards, and it does. The only thing that didn't open in the same place after the restart was Notepad. But all browsers (IE, Chrome, FF, Opera) and other programs all opened in the same place they last were.
Edit: That guy in the vid seems to be talking about something else. He wanted the program to open on the second monitor, because he clicked the IE icon in the taskbar thats on the 2nd monitor (each monitor now has it's own taskbar). But the program will open on whatever monitor it was last on - the window placement is remembered
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Not sure if you saw my edit above but I guess the chap in the youtube video must have been mistaken based off your tests, that's very good to here, thanks for confirming.
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