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Windows Store Games won't have VSync, SLI/CrossFire, Fullscreen or Modding

My favorite is steam because it offers the best feature set, but I dont mind Origin or Uplay they work perfectly fine. But if I had a choice all my games would be under steam.

Least all these give you full rights to the game files you free to go has you please.. Unlike what Windows Store seems to be doing is a No Go for me.
 
Microsoft cannot win in this way.

If they are going to use MS Store as a way to cripple PC Games developers will simply not use them.

If MS want to have exclusive tittles in MS Store they will have to buy the studio or pay the developer huge amounts of money to compensate for the loss of PC sales through a platform known to make a mess of the game.

MS may try this approach for a while and spend the money with the long term goal of controlling PC game publishing and ultimately killing it.

But they once again have underestimated the knowledge and savyness the PC Gaming community has.

We are not stupid, Frame rate caps. Image Quality caps, repeat subscriptions, peripheral lockins.... that crap is unacceptable to us. we will not be coerced into a console world.
 
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Why does Microsoft have these restrictions with games bought from the MS store? Is it because the game files are hidden, and if so why are they hidden, to prevent piracy or modding or something?
 
Why does Microsoft have these restrictions with games bought from the MS store? Is it because the game files are hidden, and if so why are they hidden, to prevent piracy or modding or something?

Because games running on PC are better than on their XBox One, way better.
 
Really, with lets say a 4tb hard drive being available for under £100, having a few clients that are what 100MB each or something, that take a few seconds to load, you hate it?

There used to be this time where every game was just installed by itself, where you click on a .exe for that game, be it on the desktop or put all the shortcuts neatly in their own folder on the desktop or on start menu somewhere.

Now you open Steam and click on a game then press a button to play it, or you open Original, click on a game and press a button to play it. Convenience is great but people act like if a game isn't in steam it takes 10 times longer for a game to open and it's just absurd.
Nobody has said games take longer to open if they're not on Steam. Ever in the history of the internet most likely. Objections to having to have ten different clients installed to play what you want are completely reasonable, when there's zero reason for it to be the case other than publisher greed and desperation for control. None of them are a viable alternative to Steam on the whole (in any sense, be it selection of products, community or infrastructure), so the argument that competition is good is a non-starter. They aren't competition. They're just an extra, unnecessary hoop to jump through in order to play certain games. I'd rather just play something else, and I do. The only EA game I've purchased since Origin came into being is Mass Effect 3 which, aside from being a massive pile of **** that did nothing to change my mind about avoiding EA, I bought on Xbox 360.

I'm slightly more sympathetic towards uPlay and the rest since they didn't actually drag their games off of Steam in order to prop up a service that nobody asked for, but they're still awful pieces of software that cause problems that simply wouldn't exist otherwise. Like when I went back to Assassin's Creed IV and found that my cloud saves were gone as they'd disabled them completely due to a bug. I subsequently never touched the game again. Needless to say, if they'd just used Steam Cloud, there'd have been no issue.
 
Yeah, this has been known for a while now. Typical Microsoft really. They can't just release their games on Steam, because they want to control PC gaming within their own little ecosystem. It failed miserably with Games for Windows Live, and hopefully it'll fail again here.

I was going to say, isn't this just GFWL all over again? And look how well that went last time. Whoopee!

MS store can KMA.
 
Steam is slow and bloaty and a problematic monopoly, I don't get why people mindlessly love it and want all other services dead. I hate having my games spread across umpteen different clients though. Some type of non-profit open marketplace would be good.
 
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Nobody has said games take longer to open if they're not on Steam. Ever in the history of the internet most likely. Objections to having to have ten different clients installed to play what you want are completely reasonable, when there's zero reason for it to be the case other than publisher greed and desperation for control. None of them are a viable alternative to Steam on the whole (in any sense, be it selection of products, community or infrastructure), so the argument that competition is good is a non-starter. They aren't competition. They're just an extra, unnecessary hoop to jump through in order to play certain games. I'd rather just play something else, and I do. The only EA game I've purchased since Origin came into being is Mass Effect 3 which, aside from being a massive pile of **** that did nothing to change my mind about avoiding EA, I bought on Xbox 360.

I'm slightly more sympathetic towards uPlay and the rest since they didn't actually drag their games off of Steam in order to prop up a service that nobody asked for, but they're still awful pieces of software that cause problems that simply wouldn't exist otherwise. Like when I went back to Assassin's Creed IV and found that my cloud saves were gone as they'd disabled them completely due to a bug. I subsequently never touched the game again. Needless to say, if they'd just used Steam Cloud, there'd have been no issue.

If it was just steam, they would be a monopoly and Steam are a publisher, what you're saying is it's okay for Steam to be a publisher and have complete control of the market and the god awful prices they charge for anything remotely new... but other publishers wanting in is terrible.

See that is the thing, people don't see steam as a publisher, not as the utterly massively profitable business it is, they act like it's some anti EA, anti publisher, for the gamer platform. Nope, just a publisher looking for your money like every other game selling platform.

Also, like Steam has never for anyone caused an issue, this is the other thing. It's the "I had a problem on this platform personally, and not that one, therefore that platform sucks and this one is faultless", same way people act like that about drivers or hardware. Plenty of people have had problem with Steam, Origin, Uplay GWFL and every other delivery system for any kind of content.

I was being sarcastic with the time taken to open because if you are making the same sequence of clicks just in a very slightly different area on your screen... it seems utterly insane to me to say you hate one but not the other. I have both firefox and chrome pinned to the taskbar, they are in different locations but I don't hate one because one is not the other. I don't like steam, uplay, origin or anything else, nor do I hate them. They are things I click on to do what I want, I can't believe anyone prefers 3 clicks in one program rather than 3 clicks in another, it makes absolutely no sense to me. LIterally the only reason I would prefer one client over another is if one was so slow to load that it felt like a pain in the backside.
 
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I am more than happy with Steam. Origin and Uplay are fine also, as is GoG and I would have happily accepted another app for games although I do forget what games I own at times by primarily only using Steam.
 
Really, with lets say a 4tb hard drive being available for under £100, having a few clients that are what 100MB each or something, that take a few seconds to load, you hate it?

There used to be this time where every game was just installed by itself, where you click on a .exe for that game, be it on the desktop or put all the shortcuts neatly in their own folder on the desktop or on start menu somewhere.

Now you open Steam and click on a game then press a button to play it, or you open Original, click on a game and press a button to play it. Convenience is great but people act like if a game isn't in steam it takes 10 times longer for a game to open and it's just absurd.

Not at all, they are the same speed loading, the others are just crap bloated apps in comparison to steam imo.
 
More promising than no reply at all.

Agreed. I did a bit of a rant video about it but hoping they will see sense and make fullscreen work (which will work then with CF and SLI in games that support it (ala DX11) and get rid of this V-Sync nonsense.
 
Steam is slow and bloaty and a problematic monopoly, I don't get why people mindlessly love it and want all other services dead. I hate having my games spread across umpteen different clients though. Some type of non-profit open marketplace would be good.

Slow? I disagree with everything you said there man..
Steam on my system is only using 200mb of system RAM far from bloaty.

Never had a single issue with Stream!!!
 
I doubt I'll ever buy a game on the Windows Store when all the games I want are on Steam or GOG (the odd one is on Origin). Especially with all those features turned off for games.
 
200MB of RAM is actually a pretty large amount, all things considered. Relative to total available RAM, not so much, but I wonder what it is doing that needs 200MB of RAM?

If it's open and you're browsing the store, then I can see a fair amount of pictures being loaded. But if we're talking just sitting there in the system tray... 200MB is quite a large amount then for what it is.
 
Slow? I disagree with everything you said there man..
Steam on my system is only using 200mb of system RAM far from bloaty.

Never had a single issue with Stream!!!

It's not that it's really slow, it's just a good bit slower than using Steam through a web browser. It's annoying enough that I only browse the Steam forums or store through Chrome.
 
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