Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?


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I don't think it has been clarified tbh.. we don't know whether he was cured and permanently damaged, whether he was died and brought back to life (and also now permanently damaged) or whether he's in some sort of zombie/undead state.

True but it just seems general consensus is he's also a zombie/wight
 
He isn't a wight, only white walkers make wights. He died from the poisoned spear and was then re-animated by whatever grisly means by Qyburn.

I don't think he's a wight myself but a lot of people i've spoken with about GOT are under the assumption he's a zombie/wight/undead.

I don't for a second think he died, he got close to it and Qyburn simply used any means necessary to keep him alive.
 
I would have to fast forward to that scene but I thought the hound said something along the lines of "You know whos coming for you, you've always know". Just seemed a little weird for him to not rephrase it to, you know I'm coming for you.
Writers trying to be a little more subtle maybe.

I figured he was saying that Gregor knew the NK was coming, or more broadly the world was going to burn/freeze/end horribly.

I too give GRRM more credit than that, but sadly not D&D.

There's no way they had such a major plot point that's core to the story deviate so much from the books. I'm not sure why the hate? They've managed to bring us years of one of the best tv shows ever and you're talking like they're a pair of hacks.

Care to share what you think another could have been? I guess he could have used the Dragons but they already knew about them! I cannot see any other convincing way he could have left like that without raising obvious suspicion.

They'd already started their ruse right from the get go, before the dead came into it with Euron calling out Theon and the Queen telling him to sit down with the mountain threatening him. It would have gone from there.
 
I don't for a second think he died, he got close to it and Qyburn simply used any means necessary to keep him alive.

He died and was re-animated. His character is completely different and he is physically stronger. It's clearly not the 'same' Gregor as though he was brought back from the brink of death as would usually expect.
 
It makes no sense to me. Just another way of the director completely blind siding the audience to make the plot look clever when in fact it makes no sense.

wasn't directed by Shyamalan was it? :-D

going back to my zombie outbreak wish, you could possibly come to some conclusion about Mountain not attacking one of his own, but that's giving the writers too much credit. as shown on the ship, eg, the slightest rap on the box had that thing snarling and raging to get out, yet Hound humped it up on his back, hoyed it on the ground and thre wasn't even a whisper until he kicked the box over - crap, weak writing for a cheap "shock" moment. they could have had the snarling etc and build tension as Cersie etc start to think "whoah, hang on..." and even have someone make a derailing comment about it just being an animal, and THEN have Hound kick it over and the dead thing explode out of the crate and go for the first thing it sees. would've been just as effective, and not just some silly nonsensical build-up.
 
He died and was re-animated. His character is completely different and he is physically stronger. It's clearly not the 'same' Gregor as though he was brought back from the brink of death as would usually expect.

You're stating that as an absolute rather than an opinion. Is there something i've missed in the show/books that definitively shows he died?
 
Rewatching GoT again and it's amazing how much you miss the first few times around. In season 2 Bran was talking with Osha about a dream he had that involved waves of water coming over the walls of Winterfell and everyone inside drowning. I've only just realised this was foreshadowing of the Greyjoy invasion in a later season. :o
 
In the book his head was removed and cleaned ready to send to Dorne. I already gave my reasoning for TV.

Yes i thought the book suggested he had no head under the armour, either that or they had managed to find someone of a similar size and send the head. I think that was left somewhat ambigious.
He was renamed, quite how one follows commands without a head is a bit beyond me, but when people talk of the tv show stretching things, i things they have rose tinted glasses compared to the stretches in the book.
 
Wonder what interaction we will see between the greyjoys seeing as Theon appears to have got over himself and is planning to rescue his sister from Euron who is off to pick up a mercenary army.

Beat his uncle, rescue his sister, return with army to help the Targaryens fight the dead?

Or the worst case scenario, Theon manages to **** the bed one last time, he dies, sister dies, Euron continues with the plan.
 
Wonder what interaction we will see between the greyjoys seeing as Theon appears to have got over himself and is planning to rescue his sister from Euron who is off to pick up a mercenary army.

Beat his uncle, rescue his sister, return with army to help the Targaryens fight the dead?

Or the worst case scenario, Theon manages to **** the bed one last time, he dies, sister dies, Euron continues with the plan.

Superb, I had not even considered that Theon might actually manage something heroic eventually. If he manages to rescue Yara, and turn the greyjoys in favour of life, then that would be rather cracking for a balless allen.
 
Well it would be the most irritating tease if his role in the whole business is to be the useless **** up and the character never being able to find redemption.
 
Superb, I had not even considered that Theon might actually manage something heroic eventually. If he manages to rescue Yara, and turn the greyjoys in favour of life, then that would be rather cracking for a balless allen.

I kind of saw the crotch bothering fight scene as an extremely clumsy way of portraying Theon finally coming to terms with what's been done to him and taking control back. Weakness as a strength and all that. Having said that I wouldn't put it past them to drop a main mast on him as soon as he boards his uncles ship.
 
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