If you take a serious look at the nature of politics, branding, social media, and the power of touchstone trigger words exampled in this and other threads, and you don't recognise the insane power of PR and communications strategies, then you're really not seeing a coherent picture.
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You’re just making your own narrative up here, my post had naff all to do with PR. If you think otherwise then substantiate your claim… You can’t because it has no basis beyond your own projections.
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Cancel culture has been around forever. People have been ostracising others for as long as we've been around. Its just now with social media its moved from your street/village to worldwide. Before social media the press would do it and I didn't hear a peep from people about how terrible it was. Don't try and paint this just on the left, the right is just as good if not better at it.
Yawn critical race theory. As shown in @cheesyboy post above, its just the latest buzzword enemy to get people raging. It is working as well. The US had and still does have a problem with racial equality and Critical Race Theory is just that, a intellectual theory. It has got dragged into politics over there because race is the thing that country can never get passed and I can't see that changing anytime soon. It is a political weapon used by both sides. At least one side is attempting to make up for its previous sins where the other has sadly gone the opposite way.
No one said it was only on the left, though the denials regarding it seem to be.
He hasn't shown that though, that some right-wing PR campaign has started around it doesn't negate that there is legit criticism of it nor is it a reason to decide to take a position based on who else is in favour or opposed etc...
The point was re: the denials anyway. People aren't complaining about this being studied in universities (or rather they are but that's not what the average person in the street need worry about) but rather that these sort of broken ideas are being applied in teacher training, in diversity training programs via HR departments etc..
The pretence, in the face of such criticism, that's it's just something studied in law school etc.. is pure deflection along the lines we've already seen...
Ok free thinker.
Hey, you keep on going with the football shirt politics, that's just what we need more of... don't think, don't have any principles or consistency, just support/oppose what people on your chosen side do.
Didn't we just have a whole summer of "black rage" last year?
I dunno, seems a bit silly to make "rage" in itself a racial thing...
Why was last years rage black? People of all colours recognised that there was a clear racial divide and inequality and were angry about it.
White rage is a noted colloquial academic term at this point. Maybe you should read it’s namesake?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rage
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It isn't just some right wing PR campaign. It is everywhere in right wing politics in the US. Its the new "commie". It was even thrown at the the Sec Def and Chair of the Joint Chiefs in Congress the other day.
They are broken ideas in your opinion. The US is a very different country to the UK. Its racial history and current issues with races are very different.
Well considering there were probably as many white people protesting about racial issues with the police and justice system last summer as black it wasn't "black rage" was it.
The rioters and insurrectionists at the Capitol were 99% white. Those are the people and people like them are who the General was referring to. They are being whipped up into their rage by right wing media plus Donald Trump and his enablers in both national and state politics. This has been building for a while though. Some white people are convinced they are being replaced. We do sadly suffer from that problem here as well.
But most of this ideology isn't dependent on being in the US etc.. Advocacy for it or criticism of the ideology can be made on it's own merits!
Yes, rather silly isn't it? That's the point!
Likewise, it would be both naive and patronising to assume that only white people have particular political positions or that all black people should support particular ideologies - that anyone getting "enraged" by certain positions must be somehow down to "whiteness".
Just because some academics use a term doesn't mean it has any merit!
Especially when said academics are involved in grievance studies.
I trust the combined expertise of academia and study of subjects resulting in colloquial terms emerging within language over you, a man with 50k posts on OcUK and 0 qualifications or authority on anything.
Try reading the book, you may learn something.
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cf Joe McCarthy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy
And more recently we have the Labour Party and anti-Semitism - Do NOT criticise the behaviour of the Government of Israel!
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Its an academic theory. Created around the civil rights era in the US looking at US laws and social issues so its more relevant to the US than anywhere. Especially as race is still a huge issue in the US. Even now certain states are passing legislation making it harder to vote for certain demographics that will most likely vote Democratic. The laws might not be aimed at minorities because they are minorities as that would be illegal but because of who they vote for but the effect is the same. In Congress voting rights legislation is being blocked by the GOP in the Senate. The idea that it could be made harder to vote for certain demographics in the UK because of who they might vote for is ridiculous as it should be in any country that claims to be a democracy.
You are the one that used the term "black rage", no one else did. It was pointed out that in this instance it simply doesn't apply as the protesters weren't of any particular colour, where as in the other they were 99% white and part of their "rage" is their belief that their "race" is being replaced. We saw something similar here when Islamophobia was at its peak, the propaganda spread that in 20-30 years Muslims would be the majority here because of their higher birth rates and white British would be in the minority. Utter nonsense of course but it was great at stirring up people's emotions. It was used to great effect in the Brexit debate when we were told Turkey was on the verge on joining the EU and the EU and UK would be flooded with millions of Muslims from Turkey. The truth being Turkey had never been further away from joining the EU. Who needs facts when emotion can be exploited far more easily and little gets certain people's emotions "raging" than race.
Brexit was a massive win for PR and Communications strategies.
"A lie can spread halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes"
The exact same thing happened with the GF murder. Absolutely no evidence that it was a racist incident yet the BBC are still describing GF as a "black" man killed by a white police officer.
It's disgraceful.
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It was a black man killed by a white police officer. There is an argument that the crime of using a forged note is a ticketing offence at most, yet they decided to escalate it and arrest him. Would DC have knelt on a white mans neck for 9.5 minutes even after he stopped breathing and with a crowd begging him to get off and help him? Because of the US issues with race and justice its always going to be a huge story. Yes the police also kill white people where no one should have died, no one denies that but history counts for a lot and US history with race stinks.
Maybe, do you have anything to suggest he wouldn't have? An almost identical situation happened with a white person (Tony Timpa), on drugs like GF and cops knelt on him for 13 minutes while already handcuffed and made jokes about him until he died - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-E_i8Q5G0 - most people probably haven't seen that because it doesn't fit the narrative that the media constantly gaslights people with. ****** cops exist regardless of race.
Ultimately nobody except DC knows if the GF incident had anything to do with race, yet the media has unequivocally decided it happened because of race.
It started in the late 80s actually, the proponents of this stuff and other similar fields do tend to see themselves as a continuation of the civil rights movement but really they're not very well aligned as most of the ideology is illiberal. This is the standard denial tactic, either make something overly broad or overly narrow, referring to CRT as just confined to law schools etc.. or applications of it as "just teaching kids about racism". In the latter case, re: the overly broad claim, it's like the whole "Antifa doesn't exist, it's a moment" line parrotted around "if you don't like fascism then you're Antifa".
Yes, I know, again, to make a point! Whoosh....
No, they were protesting the perception that the election had been stolen or something. It doesn't apply either way, again, various political views are held by people of many different backgrounds.
Are you going to pretend that "white rage" is only ever applied in very narrow circumstances to literal white supremacists rather than white people who hold particular political views that aren't exclusive to white people? Again I think I need to point out that just because some grievance studies academics use a term doesn't mean you should blindly accept and defend it.
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