Wolfenstien 2 Vulkan benchmarks:

[RavenXXX2]

 

[LambChop]

The only sensible way to compare cards is based on price, to say a £800 card beats a £500 card and therefore wins is just useless information. Granted, the liquid cooler version of Vega 64 is stupidly priced and it is valid to compare that to a GTX 1080 Ti, but the standard one can be had for GTX 1080 prices so that's where the comparison should be.

Wouldnt it just be easier to compare their top end cards ? The best AMD has to offer Vs the best Nvidia has to offer ?

 

[shankly1985]

So it’s not the winning it’s the taking part that counts

I have always been very open, about AMDs approach in getting open standards into the PC industry. Vulkan is one of them, and it's a reason I very much want this API to become more mainstream.

That won't happen with just success from AMD, NVidia will also need to do well.

This API can be used on so meny different operating systems, linux/android, Mac and Windows that is excellent gains for everyone.

 

[shankly1985]

Vulkan is in a different league compared to directx. Hopefully this is the game to kick off more titles.

 

[LtMatt]

Not bad, wonder if it will improve...

 

[shankly1985]

Not bad, wonder if it will improve...

Spill the beans

 

[TheRealDeal]

Not bad, wonder if it will improve...

I take it you have beta access to upcoming drivers. .

 

[Muhammad.Abdelhameed]

Notice how the 1080 is only at 88~90% utilization? While Vega 64 is 99%? This is a sign for needing more driver optimizations, that was the same situation in Forza 7.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

The only sensible way to compare cards is based on price, to say a £800 card beats a £500 card and therefore wins is just useless information. Granted, the liquid cooler version of Vega 64 is stupidly priced and it is valid to compare that to a GTX 1080 Ti, but the standard one can be had for GTX 1080 prices so that's where the comparison should be.

But these graphs show performance not performance/£. In performance terms the 1080Ti wins.
An 'enthusiast' forum where we're concerned about bang-for-buck. If not an enthusiast forum where should we go if we're just looking for the best performance?

I have a funny feeling that if the Vega 64 was beating the 1080Ti then there'd be no problem in including the card despite it's price...

 

[TheRealDeal]

Notice how the 1080 is only at 88~90% utilization? While Vega 64 is 99%? This is a sign for needing more driver optimizations, that was the same situation in Forza 7.

Well Matt is hinting that AMD will be bringing more performance so Nvidia can likely improve some as well.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

https://www.pcper.com/image/view/86789?return=node/68622

LMFAO

"NVIDIA is working on a Game Ready driver for Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus to provide the best possible gaming experience and we intend to post the driver early next week. In the interim, we're making a hotfix driver available which has a key stability fix for certain Kepler-based GPUs..."

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4575

 

[jigger]

Loadsa is here this must be really bad for Nvidia

 

[nashathedog]

Vulkan is in a different league compared to directx. Hopefully this is the game to kick off more titles.

When you're looking at this sort of performance as long as the minimums stay high the experience won't change it'll simply remain good, Dooms another that had better performance than expected with Vulkan so it has every right to succeed and become the API of choice, the only reason it won't is if Microsoft tries to influence the game dev's to remain with Direct X which unfortunately is likely.

 

[jigger]

When you're looking at this sort of performance as long as the minimums stay high the experience won't change it'll simply remain good, Dooms another that had better performance than expected with Vulkan so it has every right to succeed and become the API of choice, the only reason it won't is if Microsoft tries to influence the game dev's to remain with Direct X which unfortunately is likely.

I dont think MS will care too much what API is getting used as long as its a Windows game.

 

[Rroff]

When you're looking at this sort of performance as long as the minimums stay high the experience won't change it'll simply remain good, Dooms another that had better performance than expected with Vulkan so it has every right to succeed and become the API of choice, the only reason it won't is if Microsoft tries to influence the game dev's to remain with Direct X which unfortunately is likely.

One of the problems is to get the best out of Vulkan requires more work for nVidia cards than AMD where you can often throw work at AMD GPUs almost indiscriminately and they do OK - even with nVidia providing a lot of resources on this front. Doom is an interesting one as they implemented Vulkan and optimisations for AMD cards first and never really did much for nVidia cards - couple of times said they were going to but nothing much materialised.

I dont think MS will care too much what API is getting used as long as its a Windows game.

They practically sabotaged Open GL back in the day and with UWP they want people using DX :s

 

[jigger]

MS don't care much for PC gaming as they have their own PC platform to push now. If MS wanted to push a lot of resources into PC gaming they would have opened up DX12 to more than one versions of Windows.

Past optimising code for the Xbox hardware I don't think MS need to push funding into DX12 as the hardware should support the standard not the other way round.

 

[subbytna]

This is supposed to be a Vulcan wolfy 2 thread, not yet ANOTHER bleedin' AMD v Nvidia fanboi slagging match. I am sick to the teeth with this inane drivel that keeps appearing in each thread.

 

[LtMatt]

Well Matt is hinting that AMD will be bringing more performance so Nvidia can likely improve some as well.

All i can say is, I can't wait to play this game. Looks like another Doom all over again, and i loved Doom.

 

[Satchfanuk]

Wouldnt it just be easier to compare their top end cards ? The best AMD has to offer Vs the best Nvidia has to offer ?

We should apply that mentality to everything then. Can't wait to see the next copy of Auto Express, they're going to do a group test of Astra VXR, Focus ST and a Lamborghini Aventador. Wonder which will win

 

[DragonQ]

Wouldnt it just be easier to compare their top end cards ? The best AMD has to offer Vs the best Nvidia has to offer ?

For what purpose, aside from bragging rights?

But these graphs show performance not performance/£. In performance terms the 1080Ti wins.
An 'enthusiast' forum where we're concerned about bang-for-buck. If not an enthusiast forum where should we go if we're just looking for the best performance?

I have a funny feeling that if the Vega 64 was beating the 1080Ti then there'd be no problem in including the card despite it's price...

I never said there was any problem at all including the 1080 Ti in the results, in fact it'd be misleading to not include it. It's just that "the 1080 Ti wins" is a pointless statement; it's like saying "the Ferrari is faster".

All i can say is, I can't wait to play this game. Looks like another Doom all over again, and i loved Doom.

Doom was pretty fun but generally I don't get much from single player FPS games any more. Once you've played against real people it just seems underwhelming to go back to fighting bots by yourself.